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January 29, 2023 - ... (4:157) and their saying: ‘We slew the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary’, the Messenger of Allah[191] – whereas[192] in fact they had neither slain him nor crucified him but the matter was made dubious to them[193] – and those who differed ...
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Meaning of Quran 4:157
Their heart was sealed because of their disbelief and they killed the wrong man (according to what we read in Tafsir Ibn Kathir that I enjoy you to read) More on reddit.com
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The Quran affirms the the crucifixion of Christ, not the opposite.
2:154 Never say that those martyred in the cause of Allah are dead—in fact, they are alive! But you do not perceive it. This verse reminds me of the " made to appear so" verse. They may have killed him in this earthly life, but Isa pbuh lives on by the will of Allah. More on reddit.com
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Gabriel Reynolds and his interpretation of 4:157 ("they did not kill him nor crucify him")
Dr. Khalil Andani is a Muslim Ismā’īli scholar who I believe agrees with this view. And I’m sure others do. However, one thing I would like to say is that this view is personally unconvincing to me, primarily for the following reason: The Arabic term ’tawaffā’ CANNOT be reasonably equated to ’mawtā’ (‘death’)—since in the Qur’an, they are distinctively used in different ways, and sometimes even joined together in ways that would otherwise render the text awkward or superfluous. For example, Sūrah 4:15 of the Qur’an states: ”Those of your women who commit lewdness, you must have four witnesses against them from among you. So if they testify, then confine them under house-arrest until DEATH CLAIMS THEM (yatawāfāhunnā al-mawt), or God makes a way for them.” Here, we see that both terms are used adjacent to one another—but more strikingly, the person in context is said to be “taken” (yatawaffā) BY MEANS OF “death” (mowt) itself. So clearly, the two terms cannot have identical meanings. This is also the case in Sūrah 39:42 (Az-Zumar), where we are explicitly told that some souls undergo ’tawaffā’ WITHOUT experiencing death: ”God takes the souls (yatawaffā al-anfus) at the time of their death (mowtihā), as well as those that have NOT died (lam tamut) during their sleep…” So in at least 2 cases, we can see that the Qur’an not only makes a clear distinction made between ’tawaffā’ (‘to take away’) and ’mowt’ (‘to die’)—but in fact sometimes uses them in mutually exclusive ways, which thus means they can NOT be understood interchangeably when interpreting other relevant passages, such those of Jesus. And the fact of the matter is—in EVERY single case of Jesus’s ‘ascension’ or deliverance by God, the Qur’an always uses the term ‘tawaffā’ (to take away)—without exception—and NEVER the term ‘mowt’ (death). Sūrah 3:55 says: God said, “Jesus—I am going to TAKE YOU AWAY [innī mutawaffīka], and raising you to Myself, and will clear you of those who disbelieve.” Sūrah 5:117 (also cited by Reynolds) states: [Jesus said] “…And I was a witness over them during my time among them; but once You TOOK ME AWAY [fa-lammā tawafayytani], You then became the Watcher over them. You are Witness over all things!” And the list goes on. The only time that ’mowt’ seems to be applied to Jesus in the Qur’an, is in an unrelated context, spoken as an infant by his own words, where he declares: ”So peace be unto me the day I was born, and the day I shall die [yowma amūtu], and the Day I shall be resurrected alive!” [yowma aba’athu hayyā] However, because we are never given a timeline on when this foretold “death” and “resurrection” will take place—it can be vaguely interpreted as either referring to an earthly death or resurrection (as orthodox Christianity holds), or to a death and final resurrection on Judgement Day (‘Yowm Al-Qiyāmah’), as will happen to all souls at the end of the time according to the Qur’an. Moreover, Sūrah 4:158 notably does not say that Christ underwent ‘ba’ath’ (resurrection); but rather that he was ‘raf’a’ (LIFTED UP) by God—which is also another detail that should not go unnoticed. There are other passages to consider (such as Qur’an 4:159 and 5:110), but I’ll leave it there, because that is one issue I feel cannot be ignored in this discussion. And so I feel it is a grave mistake to assume interchangeability between the terms tawaffā & mowt, without having this nuanced Qur’anic context in mind. Glad to hear anybody else’s views on this. More on reddit.com
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Gabriel Reynolds says in his commentary of the Quran that this verse does not deny the crucifixion and death of Jesus. He acknowledges that this was the standard traditional view, but himself rejects it. He says that God is only telling the Jews that they aren't the ones that killed him.

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Is this view shared by any other modern scholars or is it fringe?

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Dr. Khalil Andani is a Muslim Ismā’īli scholar who I believe agrees with this view. And I’m sure others do. However, one thing I would like to say is that this view is personally unconvincing to me, primarily for the following reason: The Arabic term ’tawaffā’ CANNOT be reasonably equated to ’mawtā’ (‘death’)—since in the Qur’an, they are distinctively used in different ways, and sometimes even joined together in ways that would otherwise render the text awkward or superfluous. For example, Sūrah 4:15 of the Qur’an states: ”Those of your women who commit lewdness, you must have four witnesses against them from among you. So if they testify, then confine them under house-arrest until DEATH CLAIMS THEM (yatawāfāhunnā al-mawt), or God makes a way for them.” Here, we see that both terms are used adjacent to one another—but more strikingly, the person in context is said to be “taken” (yatawaffā) BY MEANS OF “death” (mowt) itself. So clearly, the two terms cannot have identical meanings. This is also the case in Sūrah 39:42 (Az-Zumar), where we are explicitly told that some souls undergo ’tawaffā’ WITHOUT experiencing death: ”God takes the souls (yatawaffā al-anfus) at the time of their death (mowtihā), as well as those that have NOT died (lam tamut) during their sleep…” So in at least 2 cases, we can see that the Qur’an not only makes a clear distinction made between ’tawaffā’ (‘to take away’) and ’mowt’ (‘to die’)—but in fact sometimes uses them in mutually exclusive ways, which thus means they can NOT be understood interchangeably when interpreting other relevant passages, such those of Jesus. And the fact of the matter is—in EVERY single case of Jesus’s ‘ascension’ or deliverance by God, the Qur’an always uses the term ‘tawaffā’ (to take away)—without exception—and NEVER the term ‘mowt’ (death). Sūrah 3:55 says: God said, “Jesus—I am going to TAKE YOU AWAY [innī mutawaffīka], and raising you to Myself, and will clear you of those who disbelieve.” Sūrah 5:117 (also cited by Reynolds) states: [Jesus said] “…And I was a witness over them during my time among them; but once You TOOK ME AWAY [fa-lammā tawafayytani], You then became the Watcher over them. You are Witness over all things!” And the list goes on. The only time that ’mowt’ seems to be applied to Jesus in the Qur’an, is in an unrelated context, spoken as an infant by his own words, where he declares: ”So peace be unto me the day I was born, and the day I shall die [yowma amūtu], and the Day I shall be resurrected alive!” [yowma aba’athu hayyā] However, because we are never given a timeline on when this foretold “death” and “resurrection” will take place—it can be vaguely interpreted as either referring to an earthly death or resurrection (as orthodox Christianity holds), or to a death and final resurrection on Judgement Day (‘Yowm Al-Qiyāmah’), as will happen to all souls at the end of the time according to the Qur’an. Moreover, Sūrah 4:158 notably does not say that Christ underwent ‘ba’ath’ (resurrection); but rather that he was ‘raf’a’ (LIFTED UP) by God—which is also another detail that should not go unnoticed. There are other passages to consider (such as Qur’an 4:159 and 5:110), but I’ll leave it there, because that is one issue I feel cannot be ignored in this discussion. And so I feel it is a grave mistake to assume interchangeability between the terms tawaffā & mowt, without having this nuanced Qur’anic context in mind. Glad to hear anybody else’s views on this.
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I think a fair number of scholars share this view. For example, Juan Cole in his paper "‘It was made to appear to them so’: the crucifixion, Jews and Sasanian war propaganda in the Qur’ān" (Religion, 2021) writes; "The commentators, writing a century and a half to several centuries after the fact, were removed from the original context of the Qur’ān in Roman and Sasanian late antiquity on the West Arabian frontier. They often, though not universally, misread The Women 4:157 as a denial that Jesus was crucified at all (Lawson Citation2009). I will argue instead that the passage only denies that Jews crucified Jesus. It is the perpetrator that is in doubt, not the death of Christ." Note that, as Cole points out, it's not the case that the entire Islamic tradition rejected the crucifixion of Jesus: "In one of the great ironies of religious history, the sober, literal-minded Sunni tradition generally adopted this Gnostic reading of the verse, whereas the esoteric, Gnostic Ismaili tradition tended to accept the reality of the crucifixion (Lawson Citation2009; Reynolds Citation2009; Alí-de-Unzag Citation2010; Swanson Citation2006; Martens Citation2010)."
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Answer: The verse 157 of chapter 4 of the Qur’an says: > and for their saying, ‘We killed the Messiah, Jesus son of Mary, the apostle of Allah’—though they did not kill him nor did they ...
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But here you are: Allah said, ﴿وَبِكُفْرِهِمْ وَقَوْلِهِمْ عَلَى مَرْيَمَ بُهْتَـناً عَظِيماً ﴾ (And because of their (Jews) disbelief and uttering against Maryam a grave false charge.)
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(157) and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only mad...
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Compared Translations of the meaning of the Quran - 4:157
Compared Translations of the meaning of the Quran - 4:157 an-Nisa' - Women Verse: 4 : 157 · ‏4:157 وقولهم انا قتلنا المسيح عيسى ابن مريم رسول الله وماقتلوه وماصلبوه ولكن شبه لهم وان الذين اختلفوا فيه لفي ...
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وَإِنَّ الَّذِينَ اخْتَلَفُوا فِيهِ لَفِي شَكٍّ مِّنْهُ ۚ مَا لَهُم بِهِ مِنْ عِلْمٍ إِلَّا اتِّبَاعَ الظَّنِّ ۚ وَمَا قَتَلُوهُ يَقِينًا ﴿157﴾
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(157) and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only mad...
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It says “and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever—only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.”

When it says it was only made to appear so does that mean allah is deceiving can someone explain that part specifically thanks

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I'll be referencing two verses in particular to validate my claim, 4:157 and 3:55 from the Quran.

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and for boasting, “We killed the Messiah, Jesus, son of Mary, the messenger of Allah.” But they neither killed
nor crucified him—it was only made to appear so.1 Even those who argue for this ˹crucifixion˺ are in doubt. They have no knowledge whatsoever—only making assumptions. They certainly did not kill him.

It's important to really note the "We and They" from the Quran. Who are they talking about? The broader context is that it was the Jew's who had claimed to have killed Christ. The Quran itself does not deny the crucifixion whatsoever - it denies that the jews had done the crucifixion. However - that obviously doesn't address the "it was made to appear so" element of the verse which in Islam is often referred to as a doppelganger often Judas.

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˹Remember˺ when Allah said, “O Jesus! I will take you1 and raise you up to Myself. I will deliver you from those who disbelieve, and elevate your followers above the disbelievers until the Day of Judgment. Then to Me you will ˹all˺ return, and I will settle all your disputes.

The issue right away we have with 3:55 is that "take you" is a replacement of the Arabic word Mutawaffik (مُتَوَفِّيكَ) which has no context to taking, gathering or saving in the context we read (depending on translation) it literally means causing you yourself to die changing the translation to

“O Jesus! I will cause cause you yourself to die and raise you up to Myself. " - which iteration you're reading will not change this context whatsoever. This affirms Jesus does "die" and that 4:157 is in reference to that.

This - however, still doesn't address the doppelganger or rather the notion that "it was made to appear as such". I consider Ibn Kathir's explanation of these two verses to be insane, he claims that "Jesus does not die but sleeps" and is taken while asleep - which is absolutely ridiculous and is NOT what the Arabic says - It literally says that Jesus dies.

Q3:55 Refers to Jesus but there is no mention of Christ - Jesus dies.
Q4:157 Reference to Christ - Christ is not crucified.

Body / Soul dualism does not adequately address the doppelganger.

Q3:55 is the fleshly Jesus.
Q4:157 is the spiritual Christ.

Conclusion.

The Majority of Islam get's it correct that the Spiritual Christ was not crucified but get's it wrong that the fleshly Jesus was crucified.

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2:154 Never say that those martyred in the cause of Allah are dead—in fact, they are alive! But you do not perceive it. This verse reminds me of the " made to appear so" verse. They may have killed him in this earthly life, but Isa pbuh lives on by the will of Allah.
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Actually, Islam/Quran does not support the theory of the DOPPELGÄNGER. Yes the scholars will tell you otherwise, but here’s what the Quran says, 4:157 states: That they said , "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah"; but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not. I think the verse itself is very clear that, WHAT was made to appear to them was mentioned around 4 times in the particular verse itself. The verse proves that IT WAS MADE TO APPEAR AS THOUGH YOU KILLED/CRUCIFIED JESUS عليه السلام It was never about his IDENTITY, the DOUBT mentioned in THE SAME verse, is in reference to if they were successful in KILLING/CRUCIFYING. It never ever was about his identity. They thought that have slandered and dishonoured the Messiah, to prove he is false by pronouncing him dead on the cross Btw, Crucified = pronounced dead via the cross. A disgusting/embrassing/status-dropping death. One of the most accursed dishonourable ways to be put to death. (As per Torah) To simply ‘hang’ on the cross, is not the same as being Crucified. On the contrary, in the very next verse, 4:158 states that Allah ﷻ instead raised his status. Ra’faa just like how we beg Allah ﷻ in between Sujood to ‘Warfa’ni’ we ask Allah ﷻ to raise our status - not to physically ascend us to the skies. The Quran does not support the ‘Substitution’ of his identity theory. No ‘Doppelgangers’ I assure you. The Quran states in 6:164 as follows: “and no bearer of burdens will bear the burden of another” How can someone else (bearer of burden) bear something on behalf of Jesus عليه السلام The Quran proves that Jesus عليه السلام was indeed put up on the cross, he survived cruxification (hence proving his truthfulness according to the Torah) and was indeed not an imposter (as the people against him assumed). He did not physically flew into the skies like how most Muslims assumed. Those who opposed the Holy Prophet ﷺ requested the same thing to the Holy Prophet, to ascend to the skies (17:93) - in reply to this IN THE VERY SAME VERSE, The prophet ﷺ says ”Am I not only a human messenger?’ So if Jesus عليه السلام ascended to the skies, is Jesus a.s more than a human messenger??? Thus it can’t be that he عليه السلام physically ascended to the skies too.
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(155) ˹They were condemned˺ for breaking their covenant, rejecting Allah’s signs, killing the prophets unjustly, and for saying, “Our hearts are unrec...
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Explanation of Quran 4157-158
April 25, 2004 - Explore the interpretation of Quran verses 4:157158, which address the belief that Jesus (Isa) was crucified. This passage asserts that Jesus was neither killed nor crucified, but rather was raised to the heavens alive by Allah.
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Welcome to the Quranic Arabic Corpus, an annotated linguistic resource for the Holy Quran. This page shows seven parallel translations in English for the 157th verse of chapter 4 (sūrat l-nisāa). Click on the Arabic text to below to see word by word details of the verse's morphology · Sahih ...
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At this point, the account is ... following mere conjecture. For, of a certainty, they did not kill him. No! God raised him up to Himself. God is indeed Almighty, Wise.” (Verses 157-158)...
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