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Ben Franklin's Famous 'Liberty, Safety' Quote Lost Its Context In 21st Century : NPR
March 2, 2015 - Benjamin Franklin once said: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." That quote often comes up in the context of new technology and concerns about government ...
Those who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety - Benjamin Franklin
Trouble with this quote is that the words "essential" and "temporary" are doing a lot of heavy lifting More on reddit.com
TIL Ben Franklin's quote about liberty and safety isn't really what people think it's about and was actually a pro-taxation statement about the ability of the government to tax the Penn family to provide frontier defense during the French and Indian War.
This always confuses me, because it's like people who state this haven't actually read the text. I have to wonder if the guy NPR interviews has actually read it. Here's the context: In fine, we have the most sensible Concern for the poor distressed Inhabitants of the Frontiers. We have taken every Step in our Power, consistent with the just Rights of the Freemen of Pennsylvania, for their Relief, and we have Reason to believe, that in the Midst of their Distresses they themselves do not wish us to go farther. Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.9 Such as were inclined to defend themselves, but unable to purchase Arms and Ammunition, have, as we are informed, been supplied with both, as far as Arms could be procured, out of Monies given by the last Assembly for the King’s Use; and the large Supply of Money offered by this Bill, might enable the Governor to do every Thing else that should be judged necessary for their farther Security, if he shall think fit to accept it. Let's break it down more. In fine, we have the most sensible Concern for the poor distressed Inhabitants of the Frontiers. The people on the Pennsylvania frontier are in trouble and we're worried about them. We have taken every Step in our Power, consistent with the just Rights of the Freemen of Pennsylvania, for their Relief, and... We've done everything within our power... we have Reason to believe, that in the Midst of their Distresses they themselves do not wish us to go farther. ... but even they don't want us to go further (i.e. come in and take over) because ... Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety. They value their liberty and freedom over our help; if we come in and make them safe, they will lose a portion of their own agency or capacity to ensure their own safety, and the safety provided by us will only be temporary. Such as were inclined to defend themselves, but unable to purchase Arms and Ammunition, have, as we are informed, been supplied with both, as far as Arms could be procured, out of Monies given by the last Assembly for the King’s Use; They couldn't get guns or ammo, but have now been given both, as a means to defend themselves, bought with money that is meant to be made back by taxes. and the large Supply of Money offered by this Bill, might enable the Governor to do every Thing else that should be judged necessary for their farther Security, if he shall think fit to accept it. And if the Governor would just stop rejecting the bill he would be able to use that money to increase the security of the frontier. So the whole "pro-tax" thing comes in just from talking about arms and ammo bought with money that was intended to be paid back by taxes. The whole letter is pro-tax only because it's Franklin basically trying to convince the Pennsylvania governor to not reject the bill and use the money to help the frontier people being attacked by Native Americans who had sided with the French. All the "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." has to do with is Franklin pointing out that the people on the frontier don't want them to do more than provide arms and ammunition so that they can defend themselves instead of having somebody else come in and take over. And keep in mind, this is a specific instance of taxation, not an argument for continued/general taxation. The money had to come from somewhere. So it is barely "pro-taxation" at all, certainly not necessarily in general. More on reddit.com
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin [1200x1200]
Ben Franklin is full of great quotes. I see this one is consistently posted by the “right” to make it seem like Franklin leaned more towards their side than that of the “left” but the truth is that although Franklin admired and fought for the liberty of the individual, he believed it was the highest ideal of the individual to serve humanity. Here is another of his quotes that shows he is far closer to the “left” than he is the “right” (at least with the single, but pertinent, issue of property rights) “...All the Property that is necessary to a Man, for the Conservation of the Individual and the Propagation of the Species, is his natural Right, which none can justly deprive him of: But all Property superfluous to such purposes is the Property of the Publick, who, by their Laws, have created it, and who may therefore by other Laws dispose of it, whenever the Welfare of the Publick shall demand such Disposition. He that does not like civil Society on these Terms, let him retire and live among Savages. He can have no right to the benefits of Society, who will not pay his Club towards the Support of it.” ~ Benjamin Franklin More on reddit.com
TIL That Ben Franklin's quote "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety," was actually about the legislature's right to tax the citizenry to pay for, among other things, security measures.
One important thing to consider when dealing with quotes, and really anything regarding history, is context. Not only whether or not someone said a thing, but also why they said it, when and where they said it, who their intended audience was and what was going on to inspire them to say it.
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September 4, 2024 - Benjamin Franklin's famous line ("He who gives up a little freedom for security deserves neither") is outdated and impractical in today's world. CMV ... TIL Ben Franklin's quote about liberty and safety isn't really what people think it's about ...
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What Ben Franklin Really Said | Lawfare
January 18, 2023 - Here's an interesting historical fact I have dug up in some research for an essay I am writing about the relationship between liberty and security: That famous quote by Benjamin Franklin that “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither ...
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January 18, 2023 - Two weeks ago, I posted a short ... what Ben Franklin really meant when he said that “Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.” My basic point was that Franklin meant something very nearly ...
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What does this quote mean: 'They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.'? - Quora
Concise restatement: the quote ... and security. ... Richard St. John · Watching American politics for 50 years · Author has 806 answers and 289.4K answer views · 6y · Originally Answered: Political Philosophy: What do you think of the Benjamin Franklin quote "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety."? · · I’ve always heard the quote as “Those who would ...
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Why did Benjamin Franklin say 'Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety'? - Quora
Answer (1 of 2): The quote comes from a letter Franklin wrote to the Governor of Pennsylvania in 1755. Franklin was writing on behalf of the Pennsylvania General Assembly, the Colony's legislature, in regards to a tax dispute between the General Assembly and the Penn family, the descendents of th...