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Chapter 1: What does socialism mean? in: Is Socialism Feasible?
August 30, 2019 - Deng’s revisionism made the word socialism a banality. This change of meaning could be sustained only because it opened the door for policies that led to a dramatic improvement in China’s economic fortunes. At the same time, the future goal of full communism was retained for the faithful, even if many Chinese people ceased to believe in it. But of course, the future is always ahead: it never arrives. Such slippery formulations are possible in a one-party state, where there are the means to prevent people from asking too many awkward questions. 1 Len Deighton (1964, p. 177) quoted a version of this subversive joke in his novel Funeral in Berlin, where it was told by a fictional KGB colonel, who added: ‘we arrested a man for telling that this morning’. Others say the joke was Polish in origin. Like all good witticisms, it probably spread fast.
Reddit
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r/CapitalismVSocialism on Reddit: Does Socialism ALWAYS grow into Communism?
May 3, 2017 -
Since Communism is a higher stage of Socialism, will a Socialist society always grow into a Communist one?
Also, Lenin said, "The goal of Socialism is Communism". Was he right?
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Communism is a global scale cooperative/direct democratic economy that would eventually arise from socialism if it was both practical and beneficial. Not everyone in the socialist community agrees that it'd be either or any of these things, but democratic organizations would still tend to merge to some degree for increased efficiency, effectiveness, cooperation and solidarity. I'm optimistic though that we could eventually fully democratically cooperate on a global scale with the help of technology and improvements in the consensus process, but it would require the self-improving mechanism of the free market to make that happen. I personally think the successful implementation of communism would be one of the final pillars in our evolution to a fully formed, self-aware superorganism, so since we've always been heading in that direction I do think it's inevitable assuming we survive long enough to make it that far.
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Leninists: Yes. Market Socialists: No Democratic Socialists: Maybe so (but probably not). Mutualists: Not as a worldwide system. Ancoms: We should start with communism. Leftcoms: They're the same thing.
We read about the transition from Capitalism to Socialism, but what about Socialism to Communism? Feb 3, 2024
r/PoliticalDebate 2y ago
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Socialism and communism are different right?
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ELI5: Socialism vs. Communism
They are different, but related. Karl Marx (the father of communism) said that socialism is a "pit stop" on the way to communism. Socialism is where the state (and so the people) own the means of production. Essentially, instead of a private company owning a factory, it might be nationalised so the nation owns it. This is meant to stop exploitation of the workers. Communism, however, goes much further. It's important to note that there has never been a single communist state in the history of the world. Certain states have claimed to be communist, but none ever achieved it as Marx and Engels envisioned. What they wanted was a classless society (no working classes, middle classes, and upper classes) where private property doesn't exist and everything is owned communally (hence, 'communism'. They wanted to create a community). People share everything. Because of this, there is no need for currency. People just make everything they need and share it amongst themselves. They don't make things for profit, they make it because they want to make it. Communism has a bit of a mantra: "from each according to their ability to each according to their need". It essentially means, "do what work you can and you'll get what you need to live". Let's say that you love baking. It's your favourite thing in the world. So, you say "I want to bake and share this with everyone!". So you open a bakery. Bill comes in in the morning and asks for a loaf of bread. You give it to them, no exchange of money, you just give it to him. Cool! But later that day your chair breaks. A shame, but fortunately good ol' Bill who you gave that bread to loves making chairs. He's pretty great at it. You go round his house later and he gives you whichever chair you want. This is what communism is: people sharing, leaving in a community, and not trying to compete against each other. In capitalism, Bill would make that chair to sell; in communism, he makes that chair to sit on. In the final stage of communism the state itself would cease to exist, as people can govern themselves and live without the need for working for profit (which they called wage-slavery). tl;dr socialism is where the state, and so the people, own the means of production. Communism tries to eliminate currency, the government, property, and the class system. More on reddit.com
What is the difference between a socialist and a communist?
Nothing really - or at least each case would require more clarification. These general terms are fluid and there is more political diversity among socialists than among social liberals and conservatives, so it’s all a bit blurry. In broad strokes: Socialism is a general term and very general. This can mean a Marxist socialism of rupture/revolution where there is a completely new type of society… but it can also be used to mean “socialistic” features in capitalism, so social democrats in the US are called socialists, Democratic Socialists who only support electoral efforts are socialists. Communism is also broad but generally means socialism but excluding reformist efforts of socialism through the capitalist state or reforming capitalism into socialism. Communism implies rupture, a break with capitalist society and a classless stateless one instead. So anarchists and Marxists are both communists, MLs (pro-USSR socialists) say those states are trying to achieve communism at some point in the future when there is enough production or something. I’m a Marxist and Marx used the terms interchangeably as I understand it. They basically used “communism” because it sounded more hardcore and they wanted to distinguish their “scientific socialism” based in history and class struggle with “utopian socialism” which was based more on ideals and coming up with plans for a harmonious cross-class society. When I was growing up, during the Cold War in the US, communist meant USSR or China supporter and Socialist often just was a more general term often implying non-USSR style socialism (usually either a different kind of Marxism or social democracy.) Sometimes in contemporary use, people will use socialism and communism for the Marxist concept of higher and lower phases of communism. Basically in Marxism the idea is that workers freeing themselves is how we can viably create a society without class and coercion. The lower phase of this would be more formal as people have to do a lot more organizing and debating and so on to actually structurally change society, but this “worker’s power” ad-hoc state would be redundant pretty quickly leading to most things being more done through custom and common sense than to organize some big decisions-making process involving multiple communities and different worker collectives all planning a mutual project. At any rate a lot of people online now call the lower phase “socialism” and the higher phase “communism.” I hope all that didn’t confuse more than help. More on reddit.com
Socialists of Reddit, why is Socialism better than Communism?
Communism is more difficult to scale. That's pretty much it, at least on the most basic level. More on reddit.com
Intellectual Takeout
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Why Socialism Often Leads to Tyranny - Intellectual Takeout
February 3, 2020 - They nationalized coal, electricity, steel, and the railways and set up the National Health Service to provide government-run health care. Farms and grocery stores were allowed to be private, and the British electoral system was left to allow free and fair elections. After a number of years, the British economy performed poorly under socialism, and the British people elected politicians who believed in free enterprise and turned things around. Socialism doesn’t always lead to communism, and Britain pulled back from the brink when they saw that the socialist promise led to everyone being worse off.
Marxists.org
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the gradual transition from socialism to communism
In the first stage, communist society cannot as yet be free from the traditions and traces of capitalism, from whose womb it has emerged. Only the further development of socialism on the basis which it has itself created can lead to the second and higher phase of communist society.
HISTORY
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How Are Socialism and Communism Different? | HISTORY
January 2, 2026 - By contrast, under socialism, individuals can still own property. But industrial production, or the chief means of generating wealth, is communally owned and managed by a democratically elected government. Another key difference between socialism and communism is the means of achieving them.
Talkingaboutsocialism
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Differentiating Socialism and Communism – Talking About Socialism
This form of ‘socialism’ would be more likely to resolve problems besetting capitalism and its ruling class and put a brake on the movement to communism. It would do so by producing a politics and form of state governance more befitting the socialisation of capital that was characteristic of the era.
Wikipedia
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Communist state - Wikipedia
2 weeks ago - A communist state, also known as ... form of government that combines the state leadership of a communist party, Marxist–Leninist political philosophy, and an official commitment to the construction of a communist society. Modern communism grew out of the socialist movement in ...
Quora
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Is communism a form of government? - Quora
Answer (1 of 5): No. Communism is a political ideology, in the same way that liberal democracy, religious conservatism or democratic socialism are. Communism advocates for the rapid replacement of capitalist economic systems with a centrally planned economy underpinned by government ownership of...
Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
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Socialism | Internet Encyclopedia of Philosophy
State interference in social relations becomes, in one domain after another, superfluous, and then dies out of itself; the government of persons is replaced by the administration of things, and by the conduct of processes of production. The state is not “abolished”. It withers away (91). In sum, within Marxist theory socialism and communism are very different indeed.
Reddit
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r/Socialism_101 on Reddit: Socialism and communism are different right?
March 5, 2025 -
Everyone tells me they’re the same thing. But I thought they were different?
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Hello Socialism and communism are different things. Socialism is a lens by which we develop society towards communism. Communism is the ultimate goal of communists. This is a classless, stateless society, where everything is distributed based on the needs of the overall society. This is also the end-goal of left anarchism: this is why anarchists are also called “anarcho-communists.” Socialism is the Marxist-Leninist framework of developing towards communism. Socialism is what people generally think of when they think of communist actions: the dictatorship of the proletariat for example is a desire to create a new government that is run by and for the benefit of the working class, in preparation for the “final jump” to communism. When Marx and Lenin write about these terms, they more or less use socialism and communism interchangeably, also sometimes using the terms “lesser communism” and “greater communism.” This is why people say that “there has never been a true communist society.” There have and continue to be the existence of socialist states, such as the USSR or the PRC, but these societies have an explicit goal to reform the fundamental structures towards the ultimate goal of achieving communist society.
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A lot of people use socialism to mean communism lite. There are a lot that believe "socialism is when the government does stuff...and if it does a whole lot of stuff, that's communism" https://youtu.be/rgiC8YfytDw (Richard Wolf is joking here) But neither of these are the real definition. Socialism is when workers who produce value own all the means of production (factories, machines, tools, etc) instead of a ruling class of owners. Communism is the end goal of socialism, it is a stateless, classless, moneyless society that is also socialist.
Wikipedia
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Socialism - Wikipedia
4 days ago - In the last third of the 19th century ... December 1899, the Australian Labor Party formed the first socialist government in the world when it was elected into power in the Colony of Queensland with Premier Anderson Dawson as its leader....
Penn State
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Socialism: Good or Bad? – Global Industrialization
Communism meanwhile was seen as a more extreme end product of socialism; a model where distinctions between classes become completely abolished. Consequently, many realistic attempts at communism (as with the Soviet Union) often resulted in the complete elimination of private property and freedom ...
Encyclopedia.com
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Socialism and Communism | Encyclopedia.com
This line of reasoning, for all its appeal, is not easily reconciled with the continuing support for social democratic policies and communist political leaders in formerly socialist countries. In many formerly communist societies, the initially extreme anticommunist sentiment weakened quickly, and the Communist Party was returned to power in the "second round" elections (Szelényi et al. 1996). Moreover, public opinion polls in those countries consistently reveal that the general population remains supportive of fundamentally social democratic policies even while disavowing support for highly repressive forms of communism of the sort that characterized Soviet-type societies. Under this formulation, a more mature civil society is in formation that probably will pursue a "Swedish form" of social democracy that maintains some elements of classical socialism (i.e., economic egalitarianism) yet abandons others (i.e., political inegalitarianism and repression).
Socialism101
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Socialism101
At this point, socialist society would start transitioning into communist society. Two great videos that I recommend are “Humans Need Not Apply” by CGPGrey and “The Rise of the Machines – Why Automation is Different this Time” by ...
EBSCO
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Economic Systems: Socialism | Political Science | Research Starters | EBSCOhost
Centralized government management of the economy is also known as a command economy and is a state-centric form of socialism. Socialism also has a specific meaning under the Marxist-Leninist theory as the intermediate stage between capitalism and communism marked by the "revolutionary dictatorship of the proletariat" (Marx, 1875 as cited in Tucker, 1978, p.