I feel like every year analyst just say the same thing? I think that you read analysts who all say the same thing. The Chinese economy may be in a bad patch, but I think it's a exaggeration to say that it's "failing". We should remember that slowdowns happen often. Answer from RobThorpe on reddit.com
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Fair Observer
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FO° Talks: Is China’s Economy Really Collapsing or Is the West Misreading the Numbers?
December 19, 2025 - China neither teeters on the brink of collapse nor marches toward dominance, but operates as a highly decentralized system adapting unevenly to debt, demography and geopolitical pressure.
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Carnegie Endowment
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Is China’s High-Quality Investment Output Economically Viable? | Carnegie Endowment for International Peace
1 week ago - Beijing responded by unleashing ... sector already represented a worryingly large share of the economy. This latest stage of China’s property bubble was only able to continue for a few years. When it collapsed in 2021–2022, Beijing once ...
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Is China's economy actually failing?
I feel like every year analyst just say the same thing? I think that you read analysts who all say the same thing. The Chinese economy may be in a bad patch, but I think it's a exaggeration to say that it's "failing". We should remember that slowdowns happen often. More on reddit.com
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CMV: the People's Republic of China has been in decline since COVID.
Aren't the U.S. GDP numbers largely inflated by spending on AI datacenters for chatgpt, copilot, grok, and the other chatbots with little to no practical significance? There may be a lot of money being spent, but I wouldn't say its being properly invested. More on reddit.com
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China’s Economy Stumbles After Unprecedented Slump in Investment
Oh no! Any day now!!!! More on reddit.com
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How is the Chinese economy currently doing?
Basically just ignore all the talk that tell you China is crashing or China is blooming. Things aren’t always that extreme, it’s not doing good right now but far from crashing imo. More on reddit.com
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International Monetary Fund
imf.org › en › publications › fandd › issues › 2023 › 12 › china-bumpy-path-eswar-prasad
China Stumbles but Is Unlikely to Fall
Unbalanced reforms that have kept the institutional structure weak, a schizophrenic approach to the role of the market versus that of the state, and strains in financial and property markets could result in significant volatility in coming years. But none of this means a financial or economic collapse is inevitable. China’s economic performance has relied largely on investment growth financed by an inefficient banking system.
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Center for Strategic and International Studies
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China's Economy: How Bad Is It? | CSIS
January 31, 2026 - Export growth is also slowing down amid the trade tensions with the U.S. But the economy, obviously, is also not collapsing, and it managed to grow at 5.3 percent in real terms in the first half.
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China’s property slump deepens—and threatens more than the housing sector - Atlantic Council
February 13, 2026 - That problem was underscored in the growth numbers for the fourth quarter of 2025, released last week, that showed weak consumer demand continuing to drag on the economy. There is still a great deal that could go wrong—starting with China’s financial system. Banks so far have withstood the fallout from the defaults of several of the country’s largest private-sector developers. Many of these collapses have been well-documented, as more than sixty developers have either defaulted on offshore debt or entered restructuring negotiations, some of which have played out in Hong Kong courts.
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China’s Economic Slowdown and Options for the Advanced Economies | Hudson Institute
April 10, 2026 - I argue that because of the way China’s economy is structured, the US and allies, if they muster the political will, can upset the Chinese model and eventually weaken and undermine that model. Whether Donald Trump uses this economic leverage when he meets with Xi Jinping in Mid-May is an open question. Following the near-complete collapse ...
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Forget U.S. debt, China’s total borrowing is in 'a league of its own'—much worse and deteriorating faster, analyst says | Fortune
3 hours ago - By contrast, China’s total debt-to-GDP ratio, excluding the financial sector, doubled in that span and has now topped 300%, according to Mark Williams, chief Asia economist at Capital Economics. In a note late last month, he pointed out China’s debt surge has come despite weaker borrowing from households, which have been battered by the real estate market’s collapse.
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How is China’s economy faring? - Economics Observatory
August 4, 2025 - China’s economy has suffered from slow consumer spending and a slump in the real estate market. The unpredictable trade war with the United States risks further economic problems, but the current pause in tariff increases plus persistent stimulus from Beijing are keeping the worst outcomes at bay.
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The Coming Collapse of China - Wikipedia
January 29, 2026 - Academics Christopher Marquis and Kunyuan Qiao write that The Coming Collapse of China has been proven wrong and conclude that CCP governance of China will continue into the future. Peter Thal Larsen writes in Reuters that the book "is now mostly referred to as a reminder of the dangers of making overly specific forecasts about the country’s future. In 2010, Chang wrote in The Christian Science Monitor that "China could fail soon" and predicted an economic crash.
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r/changemyview on Reddit: CMV: the People's Republic of China has been in decline since COVID.
February 2, 2026 -

The PRC is currently in an era of decline relative to the western world and is no longer on track to overtake the us or europe and it hasnt been since COVID.

The most obvious indicator of this is the economic statistics. Acording to the PRC itself its gdp went from 18 trillion in 2021 to 19 trillion today. That is roughly 7% growth over the period. While the us went from 23 trillion to 30 trillion over the same period, roughly 30% growth. And the EU went from 16 trillion usd to 22 trillion. About 37% growth over the same period. This shows a china that has fallen behind its rivals and that is only backed up by its population.

China saw its first offical population decline in 2022 as a result of the one child policy, its hard to find any statistics are arent biased, but acorrding to the government projections, chinas population is expected to drop from 1.4 billion to 600 million by the end of the century. Just from natural decline, assuming they dont get into any wars with other powers. This is not a number that would inspire anyone with confidence.

As for the Chinese military, ignoring potential training or command issues coming from the purges, they have a severe disadvantage when it comes to the combat systems needed to fight a real war. Ill focus on naval tech since thats probably the biggest weakness. China's naval tech is still decades behind the west and of their 3 carriers 2 are old soviet designs that were out of date in the 70s and the only one they designed themselves is roughly 60% as capable as a us carrier. In addition in the time it took them to design and biuld it the us biult 2, britian biult 2, and japan biult 1. While they have a larger surface fleet they dont have the capital ships to contest any objective outside their home waters. They are decades behind and cant match either the us or europes carrier fleets.

Diplomatically chinas seen its soft power collapse during and after the pandemic. With a record low of 21% global approval in 2021. While trumps antics have lead to a slight uptick, especially in europe and the developed world. China is still deeply unpopular with the vast majority of the worlds population. Meanwhile in terms of development aid the us overtook china in 2023 and is continuing to dominate in Africa, with notably the DRC signing an alliance with the US late last year and seizing the output of Chinese biult mines to send them to the US.

In all of these fields china has at best stalled out, at worst they have been over taken. Chinese power peaked in 2019.

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r/China on Reddit: China’s Economy Stumbles After Unprecedented Slump in Investment
November 15, 2025 - Nobody is waiting for anything ... I am echoing the fearmongering and extremely pejorative language in these "news". Title says economy stumbles while it deals with 1% change without reliable sourcing. I have been on the internet long enough to have heard Chinese economy collapsed for decades now.
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NYTimes
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Why It’s So Hard for China to Fix Its Ailing Economy - The New York Times
September 3, 2024 - A real estate collapse has made consumers cautious and businesses wary, as China confronts a crisis unlike any other since it opened its economy to the world. ... A surge in exports is helping fuel China’s growth but undermining the profitability of key industries and drawing a backlash from ...
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Foreign Affairs
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China’s Real Economic Crisis
November 22, 2024 - The Chinese economy is stuck. Following Beijing’s decision, in late 2022, to abruptly end its draconian “zero COVID” policy, many observers assumed that China’s growth engine would rapidly reignite.
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China in a cycle of deflation – GIS Reports
March 14, 2025 - It is important to note that while China’s economy faces significant internal challenges and intense external pressures, it is not on the brink of collapse just yet. The country still has several advantages.
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TIME
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China's Economic Slump Is Here to Stay | TIME
March 4, 2024 - China is in the midst of a profound economic crisis. Growth rates are flagging as an unsustainable mountain of debt piles up; China’s debt-to-GDP ratio reached a record 288% in 2023.
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r/China on Reddit: How is the Chinese economy currently doing?
April 6, 2025 -

I remember a few months ago, there was talk of the economy crashing and tanking, but it seems to be doing okay so far?

What are your thoughts?

Also, ishowspeed’s China stream tour seemed to be really good press for China as a whole, Speed’s western audience got a glimpse into what China is actually like and it seemed to help boost overall public perception, which could add to China’s economy.

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Big Think
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Here's why China's economy is stumbling — but not about to fall
June 11, 2024 - Lardy, a nonresident senior fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, is even more optimistic about China’s future. Like Rosen, he believes the Chinese economy is not going to collapse as a result of the housing crisis, that growth will continue at a less astronomic but nonetheless consistent rate, and that the CCP is more or less making the right choices while navigating the crisis.
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China’s Long Economic Slowdown - Dissent Magazine
May 5, 2025 - Once the population windfall was exhausted and debt-fueled fixed asset investment had reached its limit, stagnation ensued, leading to a long economic slowdown. If we measure China’s total productivity growth in comparison with other Asian ...