I have been active on different SO/SE forums for quite a while.

The sites here aren't forums, they're tightly curated Q/A resources, more akin to Wikipedia than a social network.

However, I have barely seen the same behavior from other SO users. Consider this post for example. There I have asked a question about compiling software on FreeDOS and I didn't ask it on SuperUser because I speculated (wrongly) it will include some programing.

The question was closed, and the close message gives a very useful pointer for you, namely:

"Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming. You may be able to get help on Super User."

Which tells you quite a bit about what went wrong with your post. Downvotes don't come with explicit messages, and this has been brought up and declined more then a hundred times already (no, really), but they do have a description on the privilege page and the arrow:

This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful

From which you can extrapolate quite a bit.

As soon as I wrote this I experienced a tsunami of downvotes and flags on my posts and former posts! someone even took the liberty to edit my post and remove this criticize. So here are the points I want to discuss:

That's regrettable but also understandable. In your message you basically accuse people who donate their free time and expertise to keep stack overflow clean of refuse and off topic questions of being toxic. Being that this is tagged with psychology, one of the universals of human psychology is that people dislike being accused of things they find reprehensible but haven't done. It''s therefore unsurprising that editing such a paragraph into the question would draw negative attention.

what exactly happens in the mind of a person causing him/her to downvote others without giving them the chance to learn why? and why when this behavior is criticized they tend to do it even worse? Has there ever been a psychological study on people's behavior on social media and how they try to punish/silence others?

When you curate posts on Stack Overflow, you see a lot of bad posts. Like, 90% of what you see in the close votes or new posts queue is bad or off topic. The strain of explaining the same thing to 1.000 people making the same mistake day after day makes people curt in their responses. The SE system has mitigated this by reducing human interaction: close reasons are largely canned, and commenting about your downvotes is discouraged.

I disagree that this has anything to do with silencing or punishing others, that is your interpretation into it from not knowing exactly how it works. This here site is not a social media platform or forum, it is a (supposed to be) tightly curated Q/A resource. You wouldn't accuse people of silencing others on wikipedia because your contribution to an article got rejected, for instance. It's in the same vein here.

Regarding for why making wild accusations draws additional negative attention, see above.

Why SO/SE still has the feature of anonymous downvote without explanation. When there is a flag option what is the benefit of having downvote at all?

This topic has been discussed, the idea rejected, and the topic discussed hundreds of times on Stack Overflow and on here. So much so, there's a FAQ dedicated to listing the arguments. You'll note that FAQ has 60 undeleted linked questions alone.

why there is no option to move questions across these SO/SE forums if being "on-topic" is so important?

There is, in limited circumstances, it's called migration. It's not often used, because usually questions have to be reworded / reworked significantly anyways to fit on the scope of another SE site, and usually these questions are poor to start.

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/theoryofreddit › the psychology of downvoting
r/TheoryOfReddit on Reddit: The Psychology of Downvoting

I tend to upvote people who have been downvoted out of sympathy.

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/mentalhealth › i get hurt even from reddit downvotes
r/mentalhealth on Reddit: i get hurt even from reddit downvotes

Honestly same. I go through my comments every time I open Reddit and make sure none are downvoted. I had one that was and I instantly deleted it and I still feel bad about it but it was like a week ago now. I just keep worrying that I did something wrong or upset someone.

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/aspergers › downvotes ruin self-esteem
r/aspergers on Reddit: Downvotes ruin self-esteem

You can’t control other people. You can control how you think and what you believe. You can control how you act and react. You can control what emotions you create.

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/theoryofreddit › reddit is toxic - we need to be better
r/TheoryOfReddit on Reddit: Reddit is toxic - We need to be better

You're not wrong, but remember that your experience is defined mainly by the subreddits you visit. Your activity shows mostly Michael Jackson and various celebrity/snark/gossip subreddits. It's not surprising that they were toxic and dramatic.

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Stack Exchange
meta.stackexchange.com › questions › 330985 › the-psychology-of-downvoting-others-without-telling-them-why
The psychology of downvoting others without telling them why! - Meta Stack Exchange

I have been active on different SO/SE forums for quite a while.

The sites here aren't forums, they're tightly curated Q/A resources, more akin to Wikipedia than a social network.

However, I have barely seen the same behavior from other SO users. Consider this post for example. There I have asked a question about compiling software on FreeDOS and I didn't ask it on SuperUser because I speculated (wrongly) it will include some programing.

The question was closed, and the close message gives a very useful pointer for you, namely:

"Questions about general computing hardware and software are off-topic for Stack Overflow unless they directly involve tools used primarily for programming. You may be able to get help on Super User."

Which tells you quite a bit about what went wrong with your post. Downvotes don't come with explicit messages, and this has been brought up and declined more then a hundred times already (no, really), but they do have a description on the privilege page and the arrow:

This question does not show any research effort; it is unclear or not useful

From which you can extrapolate quite a bit.

As soon as I wrote this I experienced a tsunami of downvotes and flags on my posts and former posts! someone even took the liberty to edit my post and remove this criticize. So here are the points I want to discuss:

That's regrettable but also understandable. In your message you basically accuse people who donate their free time and expertise to keep stack overflow clean of refuse and off topic questions of being toxic. Being that this is tagged with psychology, one of the universals of human psychology is that people dislike being accused of things they find reprehensible but haven't done. It''s therefore unsurprising that editing such a paragraph into the question would draw negative attention.

what exactly happens in the mind of a person causing him/her to downvote others without giving them the chance to learn why? and why when this behavior is criticized they tend to do it even worse? Has there ever been a psychological study on people's behavior on social media and how they try to punish/silence others?

When you curate posts on Stack Overflow, you see a lot of bad posts. Like, 90% of what you see in the close votes or new posts queue is bad or off topic. The strain of explaining the same thing to 1.000 people making the same mistake day after day makes people curt in their responses. The SE system has mitigated this by reducing human interaction: close reasons are largely canned, and commenting about your downvotes is discouraged.

I disagree that this has anything to do with silencing or punishing others, that is your interpretation into it from not knowing exactly how it works. This here site is not a social media platform or forum, it is a (supposed to be) tightly curated Q/A resource. You wouldn't accuse people of silencing others on wikipedia because your contribution to an article got rejected, for instance. It's in the same vein here.

Regarding for why making wild accusations draws additional negative attention, see above.

Why SO/SE still has the feature of anonymous downvote without explanation. When there is a flag option what is the benefit of having downvote at all?

This topic has been discussed, the idea rejected, and the topic discussed hundreds of times on Stack Overflow and on here. So much so, there's a FAQ dedicated to listing the arguments. You'll note that FAQ has 60 undeleted linked questions alone.

why there is no option to move questions across these SO/SE forums if being "on-topic" is so important?

There is, in limited circumstances, it's called migration. It's not often used, because usually questions have to be reworded / reworked significantly anyways to fit on the scope of another SE site, and usually these questions are poor to start.

Answer from Magisch on meta.stackexchange.com
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Popular Mechanics
popularmechanics.com › science › health › upvotes, downvotes, and the science of the reddit hivemind
Upvotes, Downvotes, and the Science of the Reddit Hivemind
August 8, 2013 - Instead, the researcher's artificial downvote made users slightly more likely to respond positively, essentially negating the researchers' interference. "Basically there was a correction effect," Aral says. "One explanation is that people will go along with positive opinions but are more skeptical ...
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/theoryofreddit › i'm a long-time redditor and mental health researcher. i've increasingly noticed issues with reddit which can encourage conformity, skew our view of what's normal/important, cause perceived threat to social status (which can cause very real stress-related health problems), and create echo chambers.
r/TheoryOfReddit on Reddit: I'm a long-time redditor and mental health researcher. I've increasingly noticed issues with reddit which can encourage conformity, skew our view of what's normal/important, cause perceived threat to social status (which can cause very real stress-related health problems), and create echo chambers.

As a long-term mod who has put a lot of effort into improving "my" communities*, comments on your final paragraph, especially as I see from your profile that despite having a seven-year account, you don't seem to be a current mod anywhere, so some of this might be news :

Turn off the downvote button. - this sort of works for desktop old-reddit users who accept CSS, who are now a minority of users. There is no way a moderator can turn off the downvote button for users redditing via an app, or via the new desktop design, who (both groups together) are now easily the majority.

Try to only ban people and delete posts for a lack of civility/respect or outright bullying/abuse, rather than unpopular views - false dichotomy, most of my bans are to people who refuse to read sidebar rules, and spammers. Most bans are temporary, though, and we've had really good ongoing contributors who have been through temp-bans. Making most first bans just a week long, if there is any possibility that it was just someone having a bad day, rather being a dedicated asshole, would be a good piece of advice.

Perhaps use AutoModerator tools to encourage open and civil discussion - I really have no idea what specifically you mean by this. Can you elaborate here?

The second half of that paragraph, I haven't quoted because it's excellent and true.

*(except this one. I'm still a mod here, but it's the only sub I mod that I don't enjoy any more, because it's become awfully political and attracts a ton of hyper-partisan arguments ever since Trump became the nominee, and we could no longer reasonably exclude the-donald from our topics. I'm not even American. It shouldn't be my job to clean up vomit from your broken country. But I still have just enough love for the subreddit from the old days left to stay and occasionally clean up vomit, but that's all it feels like most days, except the rare treat of when we get a good well-written post like this, so thank you.)

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/offmychest › annoyed at how mass downvotes on reddit actually make me cry
r/offmychest on Reddit: Annoyed at how mass downvotes on Reddit actually make me cry

Here’s my rule. I usually only respond once, twice maximum. I don’t fight with people bc I don’t care that much. I was just downvoted -65 on a comment. Reddit is a bunch of 15 year old boys who downvote women to hell. Don’t take it personally

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/petpeeves › people who freak out over being downvoted
r/PetPeeves on Reddit: People who freak out over being downvoted

The karma system is kind of nuts in the first place. What do you mean the amount that other people agree with me determines whether I can post in certain subs

Find elsewhere
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Stack Overflow
meta.stackoverflow.com › questions › 269461 › why-do-people-take-downvotes-so-personally
Why do people take downvotes so personally? - Meta Stack Overflow

Why do people take downvotes so personally?

Two reasons:

  1. It hurts to be told that you are wrong.

  2. Downvotes lead to a ban.

The rep loss seems (mostly) a minor thing.

Answer from user000001 on meta.stackoverflow.com
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/depression › do you get hurt by downvotes too? i feel so stupid.
r/depression on Reddit: Do you get hurt by downvotes too? I feel so stupid.

There are some great people on reddit. There are also some colossal douchebags. I think depressed people (or perhaps all people) tend to view things like reddit and facebook as a means to gauge social acceptance/rejection. I think the anonymity gives people a sense of security, so sometimes they conduct themselves in an unsavory way without the fear of facing social consequences. Don't measure your self worth based on what some semi-sociopath neckbeard thinks. Nobody can hold opinions that everyone 100% agrees with 100% of the time. Just stay true to yourself and your beliefs, whether someone else agrees with your beliefs is their problem, not yours. Also, I've seen reddit downvote some truly great content, while at the same time upvoting complete and total crap. I'm not sure I would want reddit to agree with all of my opinions.

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Our Mental Health
ourmental.health › screen-time-sanity › reddits-downvote-dilemma-how-negative-feedback-shapes-community-engagement
Reddit Downvote Impact: User Engagement & Community Dynamics
December 10, 2024 - Discover how Reddit's downvote feature affects user engagement and community dynamics. Learn about the debates and implications of negative feedback on the platform
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/discussion › how do you feel when you are downvoted in reddit?
r/Discussion on Reddit: How do you feel when you are downvoted in Reddit?

It's reddit, even people with doctorates and master degrees get down voted. 80% of this place are trolls anyway. I wouldn't take anything that happens on social media for anything more then what it really is; completely meaningless.

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Reddit
reddit.com › r/autism › does anybody else hate getting downvoted to oblivion?
r/autism on Reddit: Does anybody else hate getting downvoted to oblivion?

I’m curious, what is the downvote supposed to be used for?. I’ve always felt it was a measure for how popular or unpopular an opinion truly is.. but idk.

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Medium
medium.com › user-experience-behavior-design › downvotes-punishment-behaviorism-ad134044e7ba
Downvotes, Punishment, & Behaviorism | by Dan Bayn | User Experience & Behavior Design | Medium
May 5, 2021 - Many Facebook users, mostly trolls, have been requesting a “dislike” button for years, but imagine what it would be like if everyone in your extended network was one click away from telling you your…
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/theoryofreddit › does downvoting discourage debate?
r/TheoryOfReddit on Reddit: Does downvoting discourage debate?

Voting in general is a bad system for debate. Seeing a score primes people to read the comment in a certain way. Some people think against the score, some with it, but both are a bias.

I tend to farm karma from subs where people just upvote and nothing else so that I can go challenge people and not suffer issues from getting downvoted into hell.

Edit: For those who don't know, if you are getting downvoted a lot Reddit throttles your ability to comment for a bit, even if it's in your own thread. You'll get a message like "can't do that again for 5 minutes" when you try to post

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Stack Exchange
meta.stackexchange.com › questions › 342844 › what-should-i-do-if-i-am-afraid-to-post-for-fear-of-downvote-hell
What should I do if I am afraid to post for fear of downvote hell? - Meta Stack Exchange

The answer to this typically depends on who would ask the question, and the overall quality of their posts.

So I had a look at your profile (actually the active account - BTW you can ask to merge them). I am not able to see the potentially deleted posts, but from what I saw - and from what I could guess about your intentions from your description above -, it seems to me that the only thing you have to do to overcome this fear is to simply

be more confident in yourself

Here is what led me to say this:

  • You seem to generally post after having made a lot of research. Posts that will cause most trouble are posts that are technically wrong. If you carefully check what you say, like you seem to do, there isn't such risk.
  • You seem to be careful about the rules. You posted this very question at the right place, know what flagging is, etc...
  • Although your post above is a bit long-winded, it's well articulated. That's a good sign.

All these qualities tell me your posts can fit this network pretty well. I have seen horrible posts (half-assed homework questions, answers just copy-pasting other answers, blocks of total nonsense text, ...) all over the network and those are the posts targeted by the closure/flagging system. I can tell you are very far away from those.

However, you may experience downvotes occasionally. We all have. Don't take those personally. It may hurt a bit, but it isn't significant. Take that as an experience, even when it doesn't seem justified. And when it is justified (become it may be, sometimes), take that as an opportunity to improve your post.

In any case, a few downvotes on a few posts won't trigger anything bad regarding your account. Believe me, I have seen much worse from some users, that didn't seem to have consequences for them.


Edit: It seems your very post here actually experienced quite some downvotes. Here is what I can guess about the causes:

  • Your post is very long, as I mentioned. It could be made much shorter for the same effect. One of the comments gave you that hint (as a joke). Here is where downvotes can effectively be used to improve a post.
  • Some people will look at the title and say "ugh, a snowflake being afraid of downvotes. Just grow thick skin; let me help you with that by downvoting". You can't do anything about that. Just let it slide.
Answer from dim on meta.stackexchange.com
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Talkspace
talkspace.com › home › 12 comments that are unexpectedly detrimental to people’s mental health
12 Comments that Are Unexpectedly Detrimental to People's Mental Health - Talkspace
June 17, 2020 - Telling someone with mental health challenges to "suck it up" or "chill out" diminishes the pain they may feel. Learn what NOT to say in this situation...