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The Daily Economy
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The Pilgrims Tried Socialism and It Failed | The Daily Economy
June 12, 2024 - With all the calls for a “democratic” socialism and paternalistic government to be established in the United States, it is worth remembering the first attempt to put in place a form of economic collectivism in early American history. It brought about disastrous consequences for the Pilgrims after they settled in Plymouth, Massachusetts.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/badhistory › "actually, the pilgrims did in fact try "socialism"... and starved... before turning to private property and "capitalism.""
r/badhistory on Reddit: "Actually, the Pilgrims did in fact try "socialism"... and starved... before turning to private property and "capitalism.""
November 22, 2013 -

This common canard appeared today in r/conservative: Sauce

link it cites: https://www.aier.org/article/819-real-meaning-thanksgiving-triumph-capitalism-over-collectivism

Rebuttal to the laughably simplistic claims: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/21/weekinreview/21zernike.html?_r=0

Historians say that the settlers in Plymouth, and their supporters in England, did indeed agree to hold their property in common — William Bradford, the governor, referred to it in his writings as the “common course.” But the plan was in the interest of realizing a profit sooner, and was only intended for the short term; historians say the Pilgrims were more like shareholders in an early corporation than subjects of socialism.

“It was directed ultimately to private profit,” said Richard Pickering, a historian of early America and the deputy director of Plimoth Plantation, a museum devoted to keeping the Pilgrims’ story alive.

The arrangement did not produce famine. If it had, Bradford would not have declared the three days of sport and feasting in 1621 that became known as the first Thanksgiving. “The celebration would never have happened if the harvest was going to be less than enough to get them by,” Mr. Pickering said. “They would have saved it and rationed it to get by.”

Bradford did get rid of the common course — but it was in 1623, after the first Thanksgiving, and not because the system wasn’t working. The Pilgrims just didn’t like it. In the accounts of colonists, Mr. Pickering said, “there was griping and groaning.”

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Readlucid
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Lucid - Socialism Fails: Lessons from the First American Settlers
However, this early experiment with socialism quickly failed due to a lack of individual incentive, resulting in food shortages and discontent. When the colony shifted to a system of private property and individual responsibility, productivity ...
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AFA
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The Pilgrims Tried Socialism – It Did Not Work
November 27, 2019 - And it was tried by a small group of people who were committed to each other, devoted to God, and were hard-working and industrious. As William Bradford said, this was an experiment tried by “good and honest men.” If this crew couldn’t make it work, nobody’s ever going to make it work.
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Renewanation
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The Pilgrims’ Experiment with Socialism
April 13, 2021 - The Pilgrims provide a great example of perfect “fairness” failing. You couldn’t ask for a godlier group of people to give socialism a shot. And it failed miserably! Motivation dwindled when effort, strength, or rank led to no greater benefit. Bradford summarized it in the following: “The failure of this experiment of communal service, which was tried for several years, and by good and honest men proves the emptiness of the theory of Plato and the other ancients, applauded by some of the later times,—that the taking away of private property, and the possession of it in community, by a commonwealth, would make a state happy and flourishing; as if they were wiser than God.
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Mspolicy
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Socialism Failed for the Pilgrims, but Freedom Triumphed
November 24, 2021 - When the Pilgrims set sail on the ... means to pay back the investors, the Pilgrims initially set up a socialistic economy, with a portion of the communal proceeds going back to the investors....
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Substack
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The Pilgrims Tried Socialism in the 1620s and Guess What Happened?
November 26, 2025 - Squanto taught the Pilgrims how to plant and fish, even brokering a peace treaty between the Pilgrims and other Indian tribes. Many Pilgrims thought God had sent Squanto to help them, and without him, they never would have survived and thrived. And they all enjoyed the fruits of their labors until the usual realities of practicing socialism began.
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Future of Freedom Foundation
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The Pilgrims Tried Socialism and It Failed – The Future of Freedom Foundation
January 11, 2022 - In the wilderness of the New World, the Plymouth Pilgrims progressed from the false dream of socialism to the sound realism of capitalism.
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Providence Forum
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The Pilgrims and Socialism - Providence Forum
March 13, 2024 - Amazingly, early America had an experiment in socialism. The Pilgrim settlers tried socialism for two years–and it nearly killed them.
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Exploring Capitalism
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The Pilgrims Tried Socialism and It Failed | Exploring Capitalism | Explore The Moral Foundations Of Capitalism
March 9, 2022 - The desire of “spreading the wealth” and for government to plan and regulate people’s lives is as old as the utopian fantasy in Plato’s Republic. The Pilgrim Fathers tried and soon realized its bankruptcy and failure as a way for men to live together in society.
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Texas Public Policy Foundation
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Socialism at Plymouth Rock: Getting the Thanksgiving story
November 26, 2024 - But one thing is certain: The fact that the Pilgrims rejected socialism and nurtured the principles of liberty and freedom is important to who we are today — and is one more reason to be thankful this holiday season.
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Pactola
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Were the Pilgrims Socialists? — Pactola
November 20, 2013 - So, the Pilgrims decided to abandon their original socialist experiment and allowed each family to own their own parcel of land and to make their own decisions on what to do with it.
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The Forerunner
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The Pilgrims as “failed socialists”? › The Forerunner
November 27, 2025 - From the first summer in 1621 onward, the Plymouth colony had no lack of food. The grain of truth in the “Pilgrims’ failed experiment with socialism” legend comes from a decision of Bradford to cease the practice of farming a common plot of land and holding all the produce in a storehouse.
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Renewamerica
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The pilgrims learned of socialism’s worthlessness: Why can’t we?
Amazingly, early America had an experiment in socialism. The Pilgrim settlers tried socialism for two years—and it nearly killed them.
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Brilynhollyhand
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🦃 The Pilgrims Tried Socialism and Wised Up!
November 27, 2025 - When the Pilgrims first arrived, they set up what was basically a socialist commune. Everything went into a collective pot — food, crops, supplies. Everyone was supposed to take what they needed. It sounded noble. It sounded fair.
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Capitalism Magazine
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The Pilgrims Tried Socialism and It Failed by Richard M. Ebeling | Capitalism Magazine
January 6, 2022 - The desire of “spreading the ... fantasy in Plato’s Republic. The Pilgrim Fathers tried and soon realized its bankruptcy and failure as a way for men to live together in society....