The Synology RS820+ and RS820RP+ are the same hardware but the latter has two power supplies (RP = Redundant Power).
Probably not a huge requirement for an offline backup 
The Synology RS820+ and RS820RP+ are the same hardware but the latter has two power supplies (RP = Redundant Power).
Probably not a huge requirement for an offline backup 
Good day to all!
We are trying to meet a criteria for compliance purposes. We have our online backups but we need offline backups. The solution we are thinking is to purchase a Synology NAS that we can plug in once a month, get the latest backup copy, and then unplug.
I was looking at Synology RS820+ and Synology RS820RP+ but I’m unable to find out the difference between both except for the price. Any help in helping me understand would be greatly appreciated.
Also, I accept any recommendation on other NAS or solutions to help us meet criteria.
Thank you.
We have a large FreeNAS server that is loaded with files. I am looking for advice on the best way to get things cleaned up, and I know there’s tons of duplicates.
File Types:
- Images
- Text
- Videos
File Counts:
- 10,000,000+ Files
- 200+ TB
I’ve tried running many other duplicate scanners, but they haven’t been easy because the scanners crash when they get logs too big, it’s hard to get context, and it takes days to scan without checksums (Takes a really long time to checksum (MD5) files). And to top it off, they only run on one PC so I can’t even enlist the rest of the team to help clean up.
I need a way to make it so that we can easily scan files, identify duplicates, and be able to ideally save scan results and checksums such that we don’t need to keep re-scanning the same files again and again. I like beyond compare, but it helps after the duplicates have been identified.
What do you guys do to scan this much data and make sense of it / organize it?
Are you running an iXsystems FreeNAS? If so they have top-notch tech support that would probably give you the best answer to your question.
Hi All,
We are in the process of evaluating vendors for a new SAN. We currently have a mix of Compellent and Equallogic. The vendor has given us pricing based on a hybrid array with an amount of storage that we feel might be a little light. Raw storage will be about the same as what we currently have. They are saying that 2:1 dedupe is very likely and actually on the conservative side. I’m curious about what dedupe ratios other Nimble owners are getting so I can tell whether this is an accurate statement? The SAN will be used primarily for VMFS volumes.
Also, what’s the prevailing thought on running Windows deduplication on a VM that resides in a SAN volume with dedupe on it? Our Windows server VMs already have the dedupe running and we are seeing pretty good results with it. Just wondering if it will be an issue with the SAN based dedupe.
Thanks for your input.
I am trying to find information on deduplication savings information on my Nimble dashboard, and I am not finding it. I can very clearly tell you that I am getting 1.4x - 1.8x on my various VM volumes from just compression.
I wouldn’t do Windows and SAN based dedupe. Windows cased dedupe will thrash the SAN snapshots data usage. Just do SAN based dedupe.
Nimble arrays are almost as easy to setup and use as EqualLogic, but way faster, more efficient (snapshots you can actually afford to keep), and their integration with the hypervisors and now server hardware is really great. Even without VVOLs, Nimble already knows about my VMs and the IO they’re generating (based on vCenter integration).
For my understanding of deduplication it in a way leaves a bookmark of every place that file applies. It should be seamless to the end user. Keep in mind, this would on happen across common files, not all files.
To the end user they wouldn’t see any changes on their end.
From Microsoft
- Group Shares: Group shares include regular file shares that a team might use for storing data and includes environments that use Folder Redirection to seamlessly redirect the path of a folder (like a Documents folder) to a central location.
Archived MSDN and TechNet Blogs
Hi,
I would like to use the data deduplication feature on Windows Server 2012 and would just like to get a bit of advice.
Problems I am envisioning:
-Users home drives and the staff share exist on the same server drive. If users have copied files from the staff share to their documents folder, will data deduplication remove their personal copy?
-I have noticed some users have dodgy documents folders i.e. I found one user who had an entire copy of their documents folder as a child folder within their default documents folder (you get meh?) …If for some reason they are now working from the copied documents folder, would they start seeing deduplication occur on files within the copied documents folder?
… Sorry its a bit of a mouthful. I just don’t want to be confusing and frustrating users with questionable home drive structures. Thanks
As always money usually rules the day, if you use an in house nas then replicate it to an another site (nas to nas), QNAP has good facility to do that without using any third party software. I am sure there are other NAS devices that do the same, but is a product i am familiar with. Or you can use another rapid recovery core that sits offsite connected to a another NAS but the price can become dear quick but at least its all upfront costs; will your internet connection support the movement of the amount of bandwidth that you will consume during your backups? deduplication and compression will reduce it but if the amount of data changes significantly daily that can add up quickly.
I would assume this is virtualized environment? (i know assumptions!) If it is would you consider a high availability setup, where you would have a standby virtual server sitting at another location and rapid recovery exports the images nightly. (still a local data repository)
There are also third party data repositories you can replicate your images to (azure,aws rackspace) again money money money. (storage and bandwidth consumption)
I’m sure you will get many more suggestions as there are some studly backup types in this community.
good Luck
I have mentioned in a couple other posts that I am in the process of finding a solution to replace our failed tape drive; however, I am quite new to the backup process in general, and am struggling to figure some things out. It has been suggested to me by my coworker that I look into offsite replication, which I do understand the concept of just fine, but I am not sure exactly what kind of system needs to be in place for it at our remote location. We will be using the latest version core of Rapid Recovery, which we have no issues with, as we already run it; total amount of server data to be replicated is approximately 12TB at the moment. I’m not sure if I should be looking at a NAS solution or what. I am open to any ideas/suggestions/recommendations.
we are in process to evaluate the replacement to our file share Windows Storage SAN
to new Storage …
so any one could give recommendations with NAS netapp and EMC
to get use of deduplication and compression and how much the ratio i could get for unstructure data
and how this will be compared to windows duplication ??
Do you need file or block? Who’s storage consumer? Do you realize best SMB3 file server is Windows still? 
FWIW I found the Dell PowerVault and NetApp E series SAN’s to be practically the same. The hardware setup (iSCSI) was similar and the management software for provisioning storage (RAID, virtual disks, host mappings) was similar, in fact exactly the same. As @oscaroneeye mentioned, understanding the fundamentals is the most important. The vendor specific stuff you will learn on the job, and even those will likely be based on fundamental technology.
Hi All, I’m system engineer with some working knowledge on SAN and NAS running on Dell EMC hardware.
i’ve applied for few positions that require Storage experience.
question is what’s the difference in different hardware vendors like Netapp, HP nimble storage vs Dell compellent or Isilon ?
If i know Dell storage implementation and admin, would i be able to crack the interview ?
please share your experience.