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March 1, 2023 -

Article from from 1851:

Correspondenz of Berlin attests that a stranger was picked up at the end of last year in a small village of the district of Lebas, near Frankfort-on-the-Oder, whither he had wandered no one could tell whence. Such a circumstance would hardly have piqued curiosity in another country; but to a people fond of speculation, and situated far away from the great highways of the world; there was something strange and startling in the fact that the stranger spoke German imperfectly and had all the marks of a Caucasian origin! Whether the man was a common impostor and tricked the village authorities, or whether these worthies began in their usual way to construct a history for him "out of the depths of their moral consciousness," is uncertain: at all events, they looked on him as a great prize, and carried him off to Frankfort.

On being questioned by the burgomaster of that enlightened city, the stranger said his name was Jophar Vorin, and that he came from a country called Laxaria, situated in the portion of the world called Sakria. He understands, it is affirmed, none of the European languages (except, we must suppose, the broken German), but reads and writes what he calls the Laxarian and Abramian tongues. The latter he declares to be the written language of the clerical order in Laxaria, the other the common language of his people. He says that his religion is Christian in form and doctrine, and that it is called Ispatian. Laxaria he represents to be many hundred miles from Europe, and separated by vast oceans from it.

His purpose in coming to Europe, he alleges, was, to seek a long-lost brother; but he suffered shipwreck on the voyage,-where, he does not know, nor can be trace his route on shore on any map or globe. He claims for his unknown race a considerable share of geographical knowledge. The five great compartments of the earth he calls Sakria, Aflar, Aslar, Auslar, and Euplar. The sages of Frankfort-on-the-Oder, after much examination of the tale and its bearer, have come to the conclusion that it is true. Some men believe. things because they are incredible. However, Jophar Vorin has been carefully despatched to Berlin, and is now the subject of much scientific and curious gossip in the Prussian capital.-What mystification hides under the story time will probably show.

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r/History_Mysteries on Reddit: Jophar Vorin
February 24, 2025 -

In 1851, a man named Jophar Vorin was discovered wandering in Frankfurt, Germany, claiming to be from a country called Laxaria and a continent called Sakria, neither of which exist. He spoke an unknown language but was able to communicate in several European dialects, and his story baffled the authorities. Vorin claimed to be searching for his missing brother and described a different map of the world than ours, with completely different continents and nations. Despite his strange background, he showed no signs of mental illness. Before further investigation could discover more about his story, Vorin disappeared without a trace, leaving behind one of the first documented cases of someone claiming to be from an unknown world.

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r/Humanoidencounters on Reddit: The Strange Mystery of Jophar Vorin
May 25, 2016 -

Over the past couple of centuries, some people have purportedly turned up who say they are from cities and countries that don’t exist. They speak unknown languages, and give other indications some say suggest they are from parallel universes. 

In 1850, a man named Jophar Vorin was found and questioned in a small town near Frankfurt, Germany.

John Timbs wrote about Vorin in his 1852 “Year-Book of Facts in Science and Art,” which was praised for its accuracyby other publications of the time. Timbs wrote: “We find it attested, in the Correspondence of Berlin, that at the end of 1850, a stranger was picked up in a small village of the district of Lebas, near Frankfort-on-the-Oder, whither he had wandered no one could tell whence.

“He spoke German imperfectly, and had all the marks of Caucasian origin. On being questioned by the burgomaster of Frankfort, the stranger said his name was Jophar Vorin, and that he came from a country called Laxaria, situated in the portion of the world called Sakria. He understands, it is affirmed, none of the European languages (except, we must suppose, the broken German), but reads and writes what he calls the Laxarian and Abramian tongues.

“His purpose in coming to Europe, he alleges, was to seek a long-lost brother; but he suffered shipwreck on the voyage—where, he does not know—nor can he trace his route on shore on any map or globe. He claims for his unknown race a considerable share of geographical knowledge.

“The five great compartments of the Earth he calls Sakria, Aflar, Aslar, Auslar, and Euplar. The sages of Frankfort-on-the-Oder, after much examination of the tale and its bearer, believed it. However, Jophar Vorin was despatched to Berlin, and there became the subject of much scientific and curious gossip in the Prussian capital.”

(The sages of Frankfort-on-the-Oder, after much examination of the tale and its bearer, believed it.) — John Timbs, author, The Year-Book of Facts in Science and Art, 1852

Source http://www.theepochtimes.com/n3/2058869-accounts-of-people-who-seem-to-literally-be-from-parallel-universes/

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r/worldbuilding on Reddit: Anyone know of some compelling extremely deviated alternate Earth works?
May 6, 2018 -

I've always been a big fan of speculative fiction of alternate historical timelines. But all the works I've seen have been relatively minor, and usually just alternate war outcome stories. You know, the typical "Nazis won WWII" or "Confederacy won the Civil War" types of alternate Earth stories.

However, my imagination has always been more captivated by even further deviated timelines. Timelines where the point of divergence is far far earlier, leading to an even more heavily altered modern day outcome. Though I believe in neither, my imagination is captured by stories such as the man from Taured, or the story of Jophar Vorin.

You should definitely look both up if you haven't heard of them, but here's a quick overview:

The man from Taured story claims a man tried entering Japan for business in the 50s, but his passport was from an unknown country called Taured. He spoke French and Japanese, and when asked to point out where he came from on a map, he pointed somewhere between France and Spain, but was confused that his country was not represented on the map.

Jophar Vorin was found in Germany in 1850, and the only known language he spoke was broken German. The other two languages being his native languages. According to him, one of the unknown languages he spoke was the language of the common people, and the other was the language of the clerical class. His religion was Ispatian, which was identical to Christianity in form and doctrine. He claimed to be from a country called Laxaria, from the continent of Sakria. When shown a map, he called all of the continents by different names.

Stuff like this is super appealing to me because it combined a lovely balance of both familiar and alien. Anyone know of any works like this? Or perhaps working on a world of your own like this?

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Go read Watchmen. What if, in the 1930s, a regular person got into a costume and started Superheroing? What if more people had joined him? What if this slight deviation had caused higher tensions with the USSR that continued into the 1980s? What if the Superman was born, and he was an american? What if this had caused the Vietnam War to be over under a Nixon who would go on to serve a 5th term? What if that Superman had caused a technological revolution that allowed Airships (but only for the rich)? What if the abundance of vigilantes had made the Cops corrupt and impotent, causing strikes to break out? What if a Comedian had died in New York one night in 1985? You should definitely read it.
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The only alt histories I really know involve Neanderthals surviving in some way or another. Robert J. Sawyer's trilogy where, in a parallel universe, humans went extinct instead. Even good old Turtledove's Down in the Bottomlands where the Med is a dry basin and Neanderthals are still around. Aside from the ubiquitous WWII changes there's also The Years of Rice and Salt by Kim Stanley Robinson where the Black Death kills 90% of Europeans in the 12th Century. There was also a very interesting short story recently in the anthology 49th Parallels which involved a world where pathogens in The New World were so virulent to non-natives that all Europeans (and any other Old Worlders) would die literally within days of setting foot on the shore. Curiously the conditions in Europe only worsened and so the desperate never stopped trying. In this timeline Europe was hopelessly behind the times both culturally and technologically while the Americas were incredibly advanced but this was a result of the premise, not the cause of it. Good stuff.
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I want to be clear by saying I designed this map to be Earthlike because I wanted to make it easy for the reader to orient themselves and know approximately where the action is taking place in the large scope of the world. The continent names are based on the famous tale of Jophar Vorin.
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r/fabricadenoobs on Reddit: Ideia interessante para um Desmistificando (O Homem de Laxaria)
May 14, 2020 -

Recentemente encontrei essa história na internet. Lembra um pouco a do Homem de Taured, e acho que daria pra fazer um Desmistificando interessante sobre ela.

A história fala de um homem que foi encontrado em setembro de 1850 próximo de Frankfurt, na Alemanha, após seu barco naufragar. O homem falava alemão, porém com muitos erros, e disse para as autoridades que seu nome era Jophar Vorin e que ele veio de um país chamado Laxaria, situado numa parte do mundo que ele chamou de Sakria. Ele disse, ainda, que Laxaria estava a centenas de quilômetros de distância da terra em que ele atualmente se encontrava (Europa), e seguiu descrevendo cinco grandes áreas da terra, possivelmente continentes, que ele chamou de Sakria, Aflar, Astar, Auslar e Euplar. Além do alemão, o homem não reconhecia nenhuma outra língua europeia, mas afirmou que sabia ler em línguas que ele chamou de "laxarian" e "abramian". Após mais questionamentos, o homem disse que sua religião era chamada de "ispatian", e foi observado que sua descrição era muito semelhante com o cristianismo. O homem também alegou que seu objetivo ao vir para a Europa era procurar um irmão há muito tempo perdido, mas que ele sofreu um naufrágio na viagem e não sabia como chegou na Alemanha, não conseguindo traçar sua rota em nenhum mapa ou globo. Jophar Vorin foi então levado a Berlim, onde foi relatado que mais questionamentos e pesquisas seriam feitos.

Em 1852, um autor chamado John Timbs escreveu sobre Vorin em seu livro “Year-Book of Facts in Science and Art”, um periódico elogiado na época por sua precisão. Em suas reportagens, ele expôs as informações que Vorin havia fornecido e afirmou que o homem ainda era objeto de muitas fofocas científicas e curiosas na capital prussiana. Uma das explicações mais discutidas sobre Vorin seria a de que ele era um viajante do tempo, ou então de outra dimensão, que inadvertidamente havia desembarcado em um mundo que não era dele. Outros temiam que ele estivesse sofrendo uma condição mental desconhecida.

Enfim... pra não estender muito o texto, recomendo a leitura da história inteira no link acima. Tem mais algumas informações interessantes, como associações dos nomes dos continentes mencionados por ele com os dos continentes que conhecemos, e também fala sobre como as informações a respeito do homem pararam abruptamente. Realmente acho que, se for possível encontrar mais informações, esse tema daria um Desmistificando interessante.

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December 26, 2020 - That would certainly be interesting. Belief Hole podcast did an expansion episode on time slips, 2.22, but it's only available to Patreon members who pay $5 or more a month. They mentioned Jophar Vorin, a transported soldier in 1593, and some clips from Art Bell's show.
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r/Stormlight_Archive on Reddit: [spoilers everything] Who founded Vorinism, and why? A ralkalest-foil hat theory.
January 15, 2021 -

What are the origins of Vorinism? Who, or what, was Vorin, presumably the founder of the faith? I think that Brandon might have hidden the truth of the origins of Vorinism right under our noses, often his favorite place to hide such things!

Here are the facts. We know that the mysterious Fused known only as "El" had his title revoked and, much later, given to a human, although it is unclear what his former title was or to which human it was given. We know of two humans that have been granted Singer titles: Navani, made Voice of Lights by Raboniel, and Moash, reborn as "Vyre": He Who Quiets. We know that humans were the original Voidbringers, bringing the silence of Odium's void to Roshar, and that the genocidal war they fought with the original inhabitants forced some Singers off the planet to nurse their grievances on Braize as Fused. Finally, we also know that humans can be made into Fused, as per the agreement between Dalinar and Odium.

What if El had originally been one of the humans that came from Ashyn with Odium? What if "El" had originally been Vyre, He Who Quiets, a Voidbringer incarnate? Could his full name originally have been Vyre'Elin, in the same style as the names of the Heralds? As Honor made ten humans into cognitive shadows to serve as his eternal agents on Roshar, perhaps Odium did the same with at least one who did not renounce Him?

And what if Vyre'Elin, true prophet of Odium, had founded a faith named after himself? Vyre'Elin-ism, which changed over the centuries to simply Vorinism? This would be a subtle way of hiding the connection from readers, while also putting it in plain sight for people to discover and debate, a favored tactic of Brandon (think of the Parshmen reveal at the end of Wok, or Shallan's secret shardblade in WoR).

What does this mean for Vorinism? We know that some of the faith's key tenets, such as the importance of eye color, were not adopted by humans of the eastern kingdoms until after the fall of the Knights Radiant. Dalinar does not see any followers of Vorinism in any of his visions of the Heraldic Epochs or the time leading up to the Recreance. This indicates to me that the religion was founded after the events that led to the False Desolation, the Recreance and the death of Honor. Could Vyre'Elin have been brought to Roshar - perhaps by Ba Ado Mishram - during the False Desolation, and then remained for a while after to spread his new religion?

Many of the faith's other tenets, such as strict social hierarchy, the dedication to particular roles (almost like achieving Singer forms), the idea of dying and yet continuing the fight for Roshar, fit remarkably well with Singer/Fused beliefs. We can also see references to Odium in other, related faiths, such as the Passions, the folk religion of the Thaylen people. Therefore, could El, as Vyre'Elin, have been behind Vorinism, and this also the Hierocracy? Could the old Church's erasure of knowledge of the Knights Radiant, Odium and the Shadow Days have been a deliberate attempt by his agent to weaken humanity's resolve? Was he behind some of the visions that the priests of the Hierocracy claimed legitimized their crusade of conquest and control?

Thus, was Vorinism, founded long after the betrayal of the Heralds at Aharietiam, after the death of Honor and the fall of the Knights Radiant, originally a religion designed to aid in Odium's return? If so - it worked, since King Gavilar's adherence to the faith was at least partly responsible for the chain of events that led to the Everstorm and the True Desolation.

What are your thoughts? Does this theory have a snowball's chance in Damnation of being correct? Or is Vorinism just another Cosmere religion - not that Brandon likes to hide references in those (coughTrellcough).

TL;DR: Was Vorinism actually founded by and named for the Fused El, formerly known as Vyre'Elin, some time during/after the Recreance to pave the way for Odium's eventual return?

Crazy addendum: What did El do to merit the revocation of his title? We know of his interest in sprencraft - perhaps the capture of Ba Ado Mishram, and the subsequent enslavement of the Singers, which occurred around the same time as the earliest point that Vorinism could have been founded, was his fault?

Even crazier addendum: if Vorinism was founded eons after the betrayal of the Oathpact, then presumably the Heralds were shoehorned into the religion from a pre-existing faith/belief/folk memory sustained by the Knights Radiant (as shown by how Heralds are worshipped directly in non-Vorin regions such as Azir, rather than more as saints/intercessors of the Almighty in Vorinism). What were the Heralds the heralds of? Presumably not of Honor, since Honor was already on Roshar. Did they originally come to Roshar to herald the arrival of Odium's people, the voidbringers? And if so, could Vyre'Elin have originally been among their number - perhaps replaced by others born on Roshar like Taln and Ash when the other Heralds left the service of Odium?

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r/Stormlight_Archive on Reddit: Why is it called Vorinism?
June 9, 2021 -

Title says it all. Vorinism is a major player on the political landscape of Roshar... but I can't find out why it's called Vorinism. Or why they're called Vorin kingdoms. Who is Vorin, if it's of a similar origin to Christianity? Why not call it Heraldism, or Elathanilism?

I am looking for an in-world explanation. The Sandman can obviously call his fictional religions whatever he chooses, but I feel like Vorinism is so central, it must have an originator or reason for its naming convention on Roshar. Any help would be appreciated!

I've marked the post no spoilers, because I have read all 4 books multiple times and can't imagine the answer, if it's out there, contains a spoiler. But I could be wrong.

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r/NoCodeSaaS on Reddit: I want to build a chatgpt wrapper for my internal team.
March 24, 2024 -

Nothing too fancy. Basically I am planning to feed my desgin agency's SOPs into it. I have a vision in mind and want to test if it will work and if it can help my team members. How do I go about developing it? Can anyone lay down a roadmap?

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