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Prismagems
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Carlos Castaneda Don Juan Teachings: The Power of Silence
April 5, 2023 - The art of stalking is the riddle of the heart; the puzzlement sorcerers feel upon becoming aware of two things: first that the world appears to us to be unalterably objective and factual, because of peculiarities of our awareness and perception; ...
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The Warriors Way
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Seven Principles for Self-Stalking - Practices for Improvement - The Warriors Way self-stalking
Warriors continually shift their focus from others to themselves, so they can catch self-limiting behaviors. Doing this is a process that don Juan calls “the art of stalking” in The Second Ring of Power.
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Reddit
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r/castaneda on Reddit: Stalking and controlled folly
September 26, 2023 -

First of all, there are a lot of different explanations for stalking: The most common one that stalking is basically behavior that is produced due to us shifting the AP slightly and making something real "there". When Julian is being a old man, and then all of a sudden a young man, Don Juan calls that stalking.

I am pretty sure this "actor" aspect of stalking is referred to as controlled folly. Basically the art of adopting any behavior to fully make the observer belive that you are what your acting. This is but one aspect of stalking, and stalking is also explained as the art of holding the AP in a place of choice, and there are also plenty of other "stalking related topics" that I wont be covering in this post.

Stalking has unfortunately become a bad topic over the years. Due to its unclear definitions, bad players take it and twist it, to make themselves feel better about having no legitimate progress in sorcery. Also people take the "born stalker" part too seriously, and assume that if they are not able to see colors in the dark, it must mean they are a stalker and are not fit for darkroomgazing. This literally cannot be true. Especially not for men, as in the books it is said that men are neither born stalkers or dreamers, they can become good at any. The reason Julian is a good stalker is because he practiced it more, not because of a born condition. Women could be born better at either one, but they still would practice the other, just they would be less talented.

For our modern purpose, everyone should be forcing silence and practicing darkroom no matter what, as we don't have the privilege of naguals that move our AP. This could over time become a advantage point as people in here learn to move the AP to significant places, where I have seen the insane effects real stalking can have in those positions

My understanding of controlled folly aspect of stalking is that, its the art of binding intent to acting. Lets say your, "yourself". First realization that a stalker should have is that whatever "they" are is a "act". It a role they have been practicing to perfection their whole life. They are themselves, because they are not someone else. In stalking "personality" stops existing. In the film industry this is called the "actors dissociation". When a actor is soo good at being this new "role" that he "becomes" that thing. This likely happens due to you having to almost force silence to fully "be" someone else. That usually will shift their AP slightly. The end goal of the controlled folly practice is to 1. understand your personality and persona to not be any more significant that a random "role" in movies. 2. to tie that persona to the a specific point on the blue line, and make it so that whenever you act differently from that persona you adopt a new persona that requires silence or "shutting of your person" and therefore moves the AP to a different spot ALWAYS.

Now where is the "intent" in this. You see we all have patterns. These patterns tie themselves to intent and draw upon it. Your pattern of intent might be that at fridays your always happy and you are good at sorcery at Fridays. This is much more subtle, but you are sure of it. This goes for also when you lets say wake up in a bad mood, and you feel as if your day will be "unlucky". It turnes out to be true. How is THAT possible. Your "controlled folly" or "personality" whith all its patterns is actually pulling on intent. Now this is something you cannot directly control unless you stop the world/ move far down the j curve where you have a "direct link to intent". In our daily world or any AP positions that are not very significant, you have therefore a "indirect link to intent" through this hidden mechanism. The way to take advantege of that is for example aligning ourselves with the behavior of the old seers, we can make "intent" threat us in the same way it did with them. You might even get the insight that whatever just happened to you, very likley happened to a old seers, exactly like it happened to you. This might be a specific dream buble or a entity. It doesn't matter. in that moment your in their shoes EXACTLY.

Having different personalities that other people fully believe are real also benefits the practice. This is for example having some people believe that your a poor guy who is nice and cares for people, while have others believe your a rude tyrant who is genuinely "evil" and power-hungry. these are soo on opposite ends that you NEED silence to pull it off perfectly. But this is all games for kids. Real stalking is possible when you are able to pull of significant shifts with it.

Ideally stalking will become something you use in the darkroom or during significant shifts of the AP to move sideways ext. Examples of that is knowing how to act as a crow in such a way that you shapeshift into one if your AP is at the lowest point: so therefore making it more REAL. At that point you need total silence as doubt will ruin the process: this also includes moving the AP with the moods of stalking. You can give off "ruthlessness" to show indifference and make the IOBS tempted to show up and "test" your "ruthlessness". You can adopt "cunning" to provoke transegrity to give you visual and real results. This happens because your "cunning" overrides the doubt of your internal dialogue and makes that emotion, stop the world temporarily for you to provoke that real result to happen.

Combine stalking with the puff body/ energy body, and you will also get amazing results. For example lets say you want to shapeshift into a demon. First you will move as deep as possible on the J curve, and then you will collect enough energy around you to feel it as a substantial weight. You then will shape the energy above your head to create horns. You will then use stalking to evoke the "mood" of a demon, and with it a total conviction that you are a demon and that your energy body/ puff body is the REAL you. You can also use stalking like that to fully enter into a dreaming bubble as this demon that you have shapeshifted into.

You could probably live a whole life as a demon in a other world, if that's what you wish. The posibilites are really endless. As described in this post, stalking becomes a tool through which you move the AP mostly sideways, but also down if you combine it with silence, and if your good at it, you can even move it to other worlds.

Ideally you will use stalking also as a "indirect link to intent" to pull on the strings of intent, to give you intent gifts. This requires a way more sublime control, but is it definitely achievable. You would have to see your whole life and its outcomes, as just a big "role" in a show. Maybe this show is the "theater of infinity" where intent is the tool to change. Then by changing that role you can make intent itself give you a different result. By changing your role to be "a old seer" you provoke intent to give you the same fate as a old seer, that includes all the sorcery intent gifts and much more. You might even end up as one, stuck in some other world. Thats why we talk about the intent of the old seers being so important, becouse you need it to be able to achieve what they did. Whithout that intent, its useless.

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Most of what's involved in sorcery becomes "obvious" when you daily move your assemblage point using darkroom, and find yourself surrounded by real phantom realms. And even find "yourself" changing too. So a lot of what you say is true, but it might be better to get into those phantom realms where reality could go either way, and just learn how to stabilize it at that time. Most of that might involve things which can't even be spoken or thought about. You just learn how it "feels" to do something, but can't explain it. Sorcery seems, to a beginner, to be several different topics. For instance, recapitulation seems different from dreaming. And neither directly related to silent knowledge. But in fact they're all just things discovered by moving the assemblage point. Recap for instance, gets back strands of your awareness trapped in past memories. And that's precisely what you need, to get Silent Knowledge to present you with a topic that you were interested in. Trace strands of your own awareness, still focused on something in our reality. Even if it's in the past. Those tiny connections to the emanations, will select a bundle for Silent Knowledge to display. When perfectly silent, what manifests as silent knowledge is "up for grabs". Waiting for your awareness to point at the topic of interest. And any tiny influence can determine what it will be. Thus recapitulation came into being. To reduce the extraneous influences, which normal people are drowning in. Their minds are overflowing with "interests". Mostly bad. So Silent Knowledge encounters you kind of like a person in a room with huge loudspeakers each playing different radio channels at the same time. A mess of unrecognizable noise. That's the energy you didn't get back through recap. Your "attention" stuck on past things. But to get Silent Knowledge to give you useful "seeing" information, the room needs to be very quiet so that there's only your very soft voice making a single request. The noise has to be reduced to next to nothing. You have to experience this at a practical level to really understand it. Possibly it could be animated and make sense. An example: I very much want to see what the old seers were doing. It's enough that I just "want" that, as long as there isn't a bunch of other noise in my awareness when I get to Silent Knowledge. Because you can still get to SK with all that awareness stuck in the past, but you won't have any luck at all making sense of it because there will just be a series of random "topics". I believe I even saw don Juan float by last night! Of course, it was just a trace of him in the meanations, not the real being. But why did that manifest? Because my interest in viewing the old seers corresponds to don Juan saying, "Of course we know everything they did" in the books. He was my justification for believing I could go back in time and watch their lives, so Silent Knowledge manifested him first. Along with some advice he might give people, which I'll keep to myself. It's too ripe for pretending. So I had a "side topic" in mind, without realizing it. It's much like the talking lizards. That was silent knowledge also. Just channeled by the Devil's Weed entity. But Carlos had 2 questions in mind, so their presentation made no sense to him. And even the "presentation method" can be influenced by latent concerns. For example, you watch a SCI-FI movie with a big AI head on a monitor, and you might easily end up with that AI head becoming the presentation method during Silent Knowledge when you start practicing darkroom later in the night. Presentation methods are also determined by something else that's "stuck awareness". "Constructs" perhaps. Constructs you were partly existing inside for a while. As for stalking, it's best to try to understand that when you're swimming in magical phantom realms, trying to figure out how to make things go the way you want. How to stabilize one of the "choices" that flows by. All of which seem "unreal", precisely because you've become silent and rejected the normal ones. So the "unreal" flows by, choice after choice. And stalking is the only way to fix it in place when you find one you like. I'm afraid that pondering this too much at an intellectual level might just add that "noise" that recap seeks to reduce, in order to clean your link to intent. That's probably why the books didn't go into much detail on it. Because stalking is inevitable.
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Amazon
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LINEAGE: The Art of Stalking: (Part One) (LINEAGE: The Legacy of don Juan and Carlos Castaneda): Abelar, Robert: 9798778397736: Amazon.com: Books
Running the two stories simultaneously, ... generation of sorcerers. The Art of Stalking is the book Carlos Castaneda never got to write as a balanced companion piece....
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THE NAGUAL
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THE NAGUAL - Information
For seekers of all kinds, for dreamers and stalkers, for readers of Carlos Castaneda and shamanic practitioners
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Amazon
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Amazon.com: LINEAGE: The Art of Stalking : (Part One) (LINEAGE: The Legacy of don Juan and Carlos Castaneda Book 3) eBook : Abelar, Robert: Kindle Store
Running the two stories simultaneously, ... generation of sorcerers. The Art of Stalking is the book Carlos Castaneda never got to write as a balanced companion piece (to The Art of Dreaming)....
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Toltec School
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3: The Seven Basic Principles of the Art of Stalking; Warriors Don’t Have the World to Cushion Them, so They Must Have the Rule | Toltec School
November 10, 2021 - Stalking Is The Art Of Being Aware Of Oneself When You’re Awake, While Dreaming Is The Art Of Maintaining Awareness When You’re Asleep; Our Orders, If They’re Constantly Repeated, Become The Will Of The Eagle · 24: The Seven Gates · 25: Energy Map of the Double · (The Eagle’s Gift by Carlos Castaneda) Florinda said that when she arrived at the curer’s house, she expected to find her perhaps dead, but instead she found Celestino sitting alone.
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Eden Saga
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The Practice of Stalking - Eden Saga - english
April 24, 2025 - But what is it exactly? A chapter from Castaneda comically illustrates the effects of a stalking. Carlos walks in his car with Juan Matus, his benefactor. They go to a small town in northern Mexico, when next to Carlos the nagual seems to be ...
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University of Hawaii
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Entering the Second Attention
POS, 93,94........stalking started ... AP shift in a mild, harmonious, barely noticeable fashion. FFW,188 ... The art of stalking is learning all the quirks of your disguise.....
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Amazon
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Amazon.com: LINEAGE: The Art of Stalking : (Part Two) (LINEAGE: The Legacy of don Juan and Carlos Castaneda Book 6) eBook : Abelar, Robert: Kindle Store
It is the powerful story of the true cost of seeing. It is the cautionary tale, as to how dangerous it can be, to seek the liberation of alternative perceptual realities. It is the warning from the spirit itself, revealing the true price of freedom.
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Reddit
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r/castaneda - Stalking, the seven principles
Controlled folly means to apply the seven principles of stalking to whatever you do, from the most trivial acts to life and death situations. ... Be the first to share what you think! ... The purpose of this subreddit is to aid in the practical application of the works of Carlos Castaneda, Florinda Donner, Taisha Abelar, & Carol Tiggs to how we experience existence.
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Consult-iidc
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Conference speaker and trainer on motivation, creativity, innovation and self-empowerment
Anthropologist Carlos Castaneda ... becomes true. The "art of stalking" is a lot like "metaphysical fishing": Imagine luminous fibres of your will as fishing line linking you to whatever you desire....
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Controlled folly: Carlos Castaneda's secrets #8 - or the art of stalking take 2 - YouTube
The most juicy part of Carlos Castaneda's art of stalking is the so called controlled folly. What is it and what is it for?This video is part 8 of my secrets...
Published   August 17, 2022
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Toltec School
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131: The First Three Precepts And The Seven Basic Principles Of The Art Of Stalking The Self | Toltec School
October 20, 2021 - Stalking Is The Art Of Being Aware Of Oneself When You’re Awake, While Dreaming Is The Art Of Maintaining Awareness When You’re Asleep; Our Orders, If They’re Constantly Repeated, Become The Will Of The Eagle · 24: The Seven Gates · 25: Energy Map of the Double · (The Eagle’s Gift by Carlos Castaneda) The First Three Precepts Of The Rule For Stalkers ·
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Mysticryst
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Carlos Castaneda: Don Juan & the Yaqui Way of Knowledge - Complete Biography – Nicole's ritual universe
January 7, 2026 - Stalking: The art of dealing with the ordinary world and oneself. Stalking involves strategy, discipline, and the ability to shift behavior and perception deliberately. The balance: Warriors must master both dreaming (dealing with the unknown) ...
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Female Warrior
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the art of stalking | Female Warrior - The Toltec Path
April 2, 2018 - A dreamer will displace the position of the assemblage point and a stalker will temporarily fixate it on something new so that the information can be fully integrated before moving on to the next point of awareness. Together they work in seeing the new information and it is, indeed, a dance along the lines of awareness while constantly riding each line with fluidity and ease. ... Very beautiful response thank you. Yes I have seen that directly in a fellow warrior who became very limited and also used Castanedas terms to maintain patterns of addiction and limitation.
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Sorcerytime
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tapatalk - The Art of Stalking by Carlos Castaneda
And insofar as that I am supposed ... and the first three maneuvers of stalking." "The first principle of the art of stalking is that warriors choose their battleground," she said....
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SoBrief
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The Eagle's Gift | Summary, Analysis
July 11, 2025 - Stalkers, mainly the men, master the art of navigating and manipulating the world of everyday life with precision and cunning. Castaneda learns that both arts are essential for a warrior, and that mastery requires discipline, detachment, and the ability to shift between different modes of ...
Published   2025
Pages   320
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