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The Verge
theverge.com › tech › policy › amazon
Smart TVs are data-collecting machines, new study shows | The Verge
October 11, 2019 - Of course, data is part of the reason TVs have gotten so cheap. Today, Roku’s sell for less than $200, subsidized in part by targeted advertising. Technically, people agree to have their data sold when they set up their devices.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/privacy › there's a simple reason your new smart tv was so affordable: it's collecting and selling your data, and serving you ads
r/privacy on Reddit: There's a simple reason your new smart TV was so affordable: It's collecting and selling your data, and serving you ads
July 16, 2019 - Everyone on the planet could simultaneously decide to stop buying SmartTVs and manufacturers will be forced to sell only dumb monitors but how much you pay won't change. The company stock prices may dip as their profit margin narrows but that's Wall Street's problem, not WalMart's. I mean, just ask Business Insider themselves they'll agree that TV prices have been trending downward even before data collection was a thing. Now things like the Echo and Chromecast, those are definitely loss leaders priced at or below cost and subsidized by the subscription and analytics Amazon and Google collect on the backend.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/privacy › your smart tv is snooping on you. here's how to limit the personal data it gathers
r/privacy on Reddit: Your smart TV is snooping on you. Here's how to limit the personal data it gathers
March 28, 2024 - Lie like hell to it so all the info it gathers will be garbage. ... When you buy a 'budget' TV, the cost is subsidized by the amount of data the company thinks they can collect from you.
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USA Today
eu.usatoday.com › story › tech › talkingtech › 2019 › 02 › 21 › why-tvs-so-cheap-now-your-smart-tv-spying-you-money › 2910013002
Why are TVs so cheap now? Well, your smart TV is watching you and making extra money, too
March 6, 2019 - These channels share ad revenues with set manufacturers like Vizio, Samsung, LG, an avenue that didn't exist in the pre-streaming era. They also profit by selling data of your viewing histories to programmers and marketers.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/cordcutters › privacy question - tv/streaming interface companies selling data
r/cordcutters on Reddit: Privacy question - TV/Streaming interface companies selling data
April 13, 2022 -

Hi,

We're starting to research getting a new TV which has stirred up some privacy questions. After reading that companies like Vizio make twice the cost of a TV selling owner's watch data, I began wondering if all TV and streaming interface companies (Roku, Shield, Amazon Fire, Apple, etc) do the same. I found that the built in intelligence means that they can detect the content regardless of how it's streamed (via OTA, streaming platform, or even via Plex/Emby/Jellyfin).

So, here are my questions:

  1. Do all manufacturers collect this data? Are some worse than others?

  2. Assuming everyone collects data now, can one completely turn off this data collection?

  3. What's the best way of preserving a modicum of one's privacy in terms of watch data?

I've read that, for instance, you can sort of turn off Roku's collection data but that it still gathers some data about apps installed, and more.

I'm curious what the best options are for privacy. Currently, we have a Vizio TV & they've been quite transparent about their data collection (which is both good and a little unsettling). I actually unplugged the Ethernet cable (I do periodically reconnect to check for updates) so it's not connected and we only use our Apple TV 4K for our streaming needs, since I think they are better than most about privacy. We rarely, if ever, use the built-in streaming on our TVs anyway - they have often been slower in our experience than their standalone counterparts (Roku TV has been slower than the Roku stick, for instance).

I know this is an unusual question but it seemed to fit cord cutting since we've not had cable in over a decade and it crosses multiple TV and streaming platforms. I'd love to hear your thoughts. Thanks so much!

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SecureWorld
secureworld.io › industry-news › smart-tvs-track-you-then-sell-your-data
Smart TVs Track You, Then Sell Your Data
January 28, 2019 - Did you catch that part? The "enhanced" information goes to data partners or "aggregators" who already have data on you, say from your wireless phone carrier, and they then grab information from your smart TV to fill in some of your missing puzzle pieces.
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Hacker News
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I for one enjoy that my Smart TV is subsidized by all the morons who think that ... | Hacker News
April 16, 2022 - It's not connected to internet. It's connected to Apple TV box. Thanks for the discount · I also haven’t really loved the Samsung TV. The UI is not great and it often forces me into their undeletable live streaming TV app
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/privacy › my wake-up call: how i discovered my smart tv was spying on me
r/privacy on Reddit: My wake-up call: How I discovered my smart TV was spying on me
September 30, 2024 -

Hey privacy folks, I wanted to share a recent experience that really opened my eyes to how invasive our "smart" devices can be. Last week, I was watching a show on my new smart TV when I noticed something weird in the settings menu. Turns out, my TV had been collecting data on everything I've watched, when I watched it, and for how long. It even had my location data! I did some digging and found out this is pretty common with smart TVs. They use a technology called Automatic Content Recognition (ACR) to track viewing habits and sell that data to advertisers. Crazy, right? Here's what I did to lock things down:

  1. Disabled ACR in the TV settings (it was buried deep in the menus)

  2. Turned off the TV's internet connection entirely

  3. Started using a separate streaming device (Roku) with stricter privacy settings

Now I'm paranoid about all my other "smart" devices. Has anyone else had similar revelations? What steps have you taken to protect your privacy at home? Also, does anyone know if there are any truly privacy-respecting smart TVs out there? Or is that just an oxymoron at this point? Stay vigilant, everyone. Big Tech is always watching!

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When it comes to software/hardware, I operate under the assumption that everything is guilty until proven innocent. There are ways to monitor what network traffic goes through your router but it can be difficult to determine what exactly your device is sending/receiving. Disconnecting the TV's access to the Internet is the right call. There is absolutely no reason to trust any manufacturer implicitly, given you are not able to view their proprietary software. Grab yourself a Raspberry Pi and use that to access your content and interface with your TV. Use a genuinely open source Linux distribution, or whatever system you trust to install on it. Then after all that buy a tinfoil hat like I did and start partitioning your LAN into heavily restricted groups with highly specific firewall permissions. Throw your phone into a shredder after learning about Stellar Wind, become militant and "preachy", until your friends get annoyed with you as you withdraw from society. Next, you're going to want to become jaded and realize that privacy is dead and we are fighting a battle within a much larger war with a long since victorious adversary. Question why privacy is a constitutional right while simultaneously having it violated by literally every company and the government hundreds of times a second. Finally, give up and wonder if maybe that one reddit user was just a bit paranoid and needs sleep. I mean how much does the government really care about us normal folk? So you go back and read some other things within different threads for a while only to find that Company Incorporated has been spying on you for profit. Get angry and replace that service/device/thing with more FOSS and THEN!!! Rinse and repeat. TLDR; All jokes aside, a Pi with a disconnected TV is the way to go.
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Ars Technica
arstechnica.com › gadgets › 2024 › 08 › tv-industrys-ads-tracking-obsession-is-turning-your-living-room-into-a-store
Your TV set has become a digital billboard. And it’s only getting worse. - Ars Technica
August 19, 2024 - The company’s TVs are free but allow the startup to track their owners, and they have a secondary screen for showing ads, including when the TV is off (the secondary screen can also display information like the weather or sports scores). Telly’s prospective owners must answer a long series of questions, like if they’re registered to vote and who their cell phone provider is, with the data used for ad targeting.
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CNN
cnn.com › 2023 › 05 › 17 › tech › telly-free-television-with-advertisements
This company wants to give you a free TV. The catch? constant ads. | CNN Business
May 17, 2023 - “We are putting an end to the decades long practice of double-dipping on the consumer, where the consumer is being charged for the television and then have the TV manufacturer turn around and make billions of dollars off of selling the advertising and data from that television without providing the consumer any value,” Telly chief stategy officer Dallas Lawrence told CNN.
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Quora
quora.com › True-or-False-Smart-TVs-are-priced-low-in-part-because-TV-makers-sell-your-user-data-to-third-parties
True or False? Smart TVs are priced low in part because TV makers sell your user data to third parties. - Quora
Answer: No. TV manufacturers never set out to do this and the Smart TV functionality brings in minimal revenues. You only get a nominal reward from the likes of Netflix and only when a new customer signs up through your product.
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Fox 59
fox59.com › news › national-world › new-company-thinks-its-time-for-free-tvs-heres-how-to-get-one
Free TV from Telly: Company offers ad-supported televisions
May 15, 2023 - The company will sell that data to ad networks, data brokers, marketing providers, media/marketing researchers and other parties, according to the privacy policy.
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ZDNET
zdnet.com › home › tech › security
US cell carriers are selling access to your real-time phone location data | ZDNET
January 18, 2019 - The company embroiled in a privacy row has "direct connections" to all major US wireless carriers, including AT&T, Verizon, T-Mobile, and Sprint -- and Canadian cell networks, too.
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Quora
quora.com › Are-smart-TVs-really-collecting-and-selling-your-info
Are smart TVs really collecting and selling your info? - Quora
Answer (1 of 9): Possibly yes, but… Your phone is already doing this in far more detail than your TV. What does your TV really know about you? You almost certainly don't put any personal information into the TV, you only use it to watch TV, movies and cat videos on YouTube. The TV doesn't know ...
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The Current
thecurrent.com › americans-smart-tv-data-streaming-marketing
79% of U.S. households now own a smart TV | The Current
May 22, 2024 - The rate at which Americans are purchasing smart TVs has jumped over the last four years, suggesting built-in access to streamers has major appeal to viewers.