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Effectivealtruism
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Nuclear winter scepticism — EA Forum
August 13, 2023 - Update on 16 October 2023: I have now done my own in-depth analysis of nuclear winter. …
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Quora
quora.com › Is-nuclear-winter-a-hoax-to-scare-the-countries-I-think-here-in-Latin-America-we-will-be-saved-from-nuclear
Is nuclear winter a hoax to scare the countries? I think here in ...
Answer: The idea of a nuclear winter was not a hoax but based upon sketchy science at the time using a full-scale exchange. Back then, we had many more thermonuclear bombs of much larger size than we do today. Many were designed to explode at ground level or below to maximize the chances of dest...
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Effectivealtruism
forum.effectivealtruism.org › posts › pbMfYGjBqrhmmmDSo › nuclear-winter-reviewing-the-evidence-the-complexities-and
Nuclear winter - Reviewing the evidence, the complexities, and ...
August 25, 2023 - Nuclear winter is a topic that many have heard about, but where significant confusion can occur. I certainly knew little about the topic beyond the s…
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Hacker News
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The concept of "nuclear winter" is a great example of science gone ...
https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4244 · https://www.nature.com/articles/475037b
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Quora
debunkingdoomsday.quora.com › Debunked-Nuclear-Winter-and-Radioactive-Fallout-myths
Debunked: Nuclear Winter and Radioactive Fallout myths - Debunking ...
January 24, 2023 - There are many online pages and websites that seem very authoritative that say that even a limited nuclear war, say between India and Pakistan, would plunge the Earth into a ‘Nuclear winter’ with no crops able to grow, no plants, no animals, and people soon starving to extinction.
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Nature
nature.com › articles › 317011a0.pdf pdf
Nuclear winter can cross Equator
First published in 1869, Nature is the world’s leading multidisciplinary science journal. Nature publishes the finest peer-reviewed research that drives ground-breaking discovery, and is read by thought-leaders and decision-makers around the world.
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/nuclearweapons › nuclear winter - real or hoax?
r/nuclearweapons on Reddit: Nuclear winter - real or hoax?

It's not a "hoax" by any measure — the scientists working on it do so earnestly and do so within the bounds of real science. So we can at least use the right terminology for it. It is a hypothesis, and there have been teams of competent scientists doing real, peer-reviewed work on it since the early 1980s. Is it a valid one or an invalid one?

The resolution comes down to what model are you using for the injecting of smoke and soot into the atmosphere after a large nuclear attack, how long that will stay in the air after the attack, and how they will interact with sunlight. The competing models use different estimates for the various values. With some estimates, there is smoke, but it gets "scrubbed" out of the atmosphere through different mechanisms (like rain) over a short amount of time, and so any climate effect is small and temporary if even perceivable. With others, the smoke/soot get up there and stay up there and reflect a lot of sun and cause fairly wide-spread temperature decreases that can take years or decades to return to the status quo.

Which of these is correct? I don't know. I have met people who work on this and they all seem intellectually genuine to me. I also think that most of the people who work on this (one side or the other) tend to be inclined towards one of these solutions being the right answer before they start the work, and their assumptions of optimism or pessimism in the numbers reflect that. But as far as I can tell we don't have perfect simulations and we don't have perfect understanding of the relevant phenomena, because (fortunately) this sort of thing has not happened before. We do have some data we can feed into it (the combined bombings of WWII — about 4 Mt of explosives spread out over a huge area and several years — did seem to create a small temperature dip globally; the torching of the Kuwaiti oil fields in the 1990s did not seem to have a measurable impact globally), and those can help refine the models.

But it's all models. And you're modeling two difficult things. One is the climate, which we're getting better at, but is still hugely difficult the model. The other is a large-scale nuclear exchange, which requires a lot of assumptions since we don't have a lot of source data for that (thankfully). "How much burning of modern cities would be caused by modern weapons?" is a question that is very hard to answer — you're modeling a lot of effects that we don't have good experimental data for (because, again, we haven't nuked modern cities with modern weapons).

If you want a better understanding of the whole thing, Lawrence Badash's book A Nuclear Winter's Tale, does a very good job of outlining the early history of the work, the various responses to it, and the modern updates to it. Badash is on the side of it being a real phenomena, or at least a phenomena that if it has even a small chance of being real, you should assume is real (because to do otherwise is reckless). But he gives those who object to it their day in court as well. It is written for a non-technical person. It will not resolve the question for you, but it'll help you see the various reasons that different people argue differently about it.

I'm not saying that everybody's opinion is equally valid — but for a non-expert it is not going to be possible to really determine which of these models is inherently better at the moment. The number of unknowns are significant.

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Lesswrong
lesswrong.com › posts › sJK6HN5vTPPnuuNgQ › that-one-apocalyptic-nuclear-famine-paper-is-bunk
That one apocalyptic nuclear famine paper is bunk — LessWrong
October 12, 2022 - I've seen a few commentors and bloggers cite this study from Nature Food to explain why they think nuclear war may lead to the collapse of civilizati…
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Steam Community
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Nuclear Winter - Will it ever return? :: Fallout 76 General ...
December 5, 2023 - Its been a few years now since Nuclear winter was removed from the game, its winter time once again in good ole West Virginia, is there any chance we could see a return of this once awesome and fun feature. while it did have some problems in the past it would be pretty fun to see a DeathMatch ...
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NCBI
ncbi.nlm.nih.gov › books › NBK219155
Recent Assessments of the Environmental Consequences of Nuclear ...
These studies look beyond the immediate and direct effects of nuclear explosions (blast, thermal radiation, and local radioactive fallout) to investigate the more widespread effects of dispersed radioactivity and severe climatic disturbances—the nuclear winter (Crutzen and Birks, 1982; Turco ...
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Quora
quora.com › Why-is-nuclear-winter-a-myth-What-is-the-scientific-evidence-that-it-could-really-happen
Why is nuclear winter a myth? What is the scientific evidence that ...
August 19, 2021 - Answer (1 of 19): Its technically not a myth. What is a myth is the idea that it can easily happen in WW3. It turns out, it is not easy to do With old climate models we thought that ww3 would cause a devastating nuclear winter. Then we applied those climate models to real events like forest fire...
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YouTube
youtube.com › operatordrewski
I Made S.T.A.L.K.E.R. into a Nuclear Winter Simulator - YouTube
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Thanks for checking out my video on STALKER: GAMMA! For the winter overhaul, Project INVERNO: https://www.moddb.com/mods/stalker-anomaly/addons/inverno-fxIf ...
Published: December 12, 2023
Views: 675K
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The Daily Star
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The threat of a ‘nuclear winter’ | The Daily Star
November 4, 2022 - Even though it is a chilling concept, there are credible precedents of nuclear winter.
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Thebulletin
thebulletin.org › home › nuclear risk › nowhere to hide: how a nuclear war would kill you—and almost everyone else.
Nowhere to hide: How a nuclear war would kill you—and almost ...
January 31, 2024 - In a nuclear war, hundreds to thousands of detonations would occur within minutes of each other, resulting in tens to hundreds of millions of people dead or injured in a few days. But a few years after a nuclear war, global climatic changes caused by the many nuclear explosions could be responsible ...
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Bethesda Support
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Nuclear Winter - Game Mode - Fallout 76 - Bethesda Support
June 20, 2023 - The Nuclear Winter Mode was removed in September of 2021. Please note the following: All players who participated in Nuclear Winter will receive the following on Patch Day: 6 Perk Coins per
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Reddit
reddit.com › r/fo76 › fo76 removing nuclear winter.
r/fo76 on Reddit: FO76 Removing Nuclear Winter.

I'll actually give Beth the benefit of the doubt and say this decision is based on metrics. If it's just not popular enough, why spend the resources to advance and support it. I'd rather see them spend those development resources on regular game content and fixing the plethora of bugs we all bitch about on a daily basis. (Not that I think we'll see a boost to content because of the removal of NW, but...)

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Polygon
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Fallout 76’s battle royale mode, Nuclear Winter, will soon end ...
June 16, 2021 - Bethesda is canceling Nuclear Winter, the battle royale mode of Fallout 76. This mode was taking resources away from the main adventure format, and also proved tough to update for Bethesda. More information on PvP in Fallout 76 is forthcoming.
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Destructoid
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Bethesda details how the Fallout 76 battle royale mode is leaving soon
September 8, 2021 - Fallout 76 battle royale, Nuclear Winter, is set to leave the game soon in September, and before that happens we got some details
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OpenCritic
opencritic.com › news › 2442 › fallout-76-is-losing-its-nuclear-winter-mode
Fallout 76 is Losing its Nuclear Winter Mode - OpenCritic
June 11, 2021 - It has been announced that Nuclear Winter is being removed from Fallout 76